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  1. Cee

    Not By Works

    I do follow His instructions. I believe in Him and I love as He loved me. This is the entire Law fulfilled. Love doesn’t lie, cheat, murder, steal, etc. And you would have no problem with my statement - except you think the Sabbath is still necessary. And you have wisely discerned that loving...
  2. Cee

    Not By Works

    The purpose of the Law was to lead us to faith in Christ. Our faith establishes it.
  3. Cee

    Not By Works

    We serve God not the Law. We are now lead by the Spirit of God Himself. The Law was until HE came.
  4. Cee

    Not By Works

    No you're hilarious, I am starting to think you've ripped all the letters of Paul out of your Bible, lol. And bro, you post the same Scriptures over and over and over. And they aren't in context. This isn't a discussion to me.
  5. Cee

    Not By Works

    There you go again posting a bunch of out of context Scriptures. Most of them are teaching exactly the opposite of what you're saying. And you ignored me again. Are we dead to the law in Christ - yes or no?
  6. Cee

    Not By Works

    It is still here, but for those in Christ we are dead to the Law. Yes or no?
  7. Cee

    Not By Works

    More ignoring of context, ignoring of Scriptures that I've posted. And more of simply making Scripture say what you want. When you want to discuss entire passages of Scripture with a proper Bible translation. Come see me. Paul didn't send post it notes of verses to his flock, he sent entire letters.
  8. Cee

    Not By Works

    From what I see, you're attempting to make the NT fit your OT paradigm. But the issue is that Scripture teaches that OT needs to be understood through Christ. Not the other way around. You keep posting OT Scriptures to try to argue against clear NT Scriptures. While ignoring the clear NT...
  9. Cee

    Not By Works

    I understand what you believe. But you're also tearing Scripture apart picking verse by verse instead of actually studying entire NT Scripture passages. And that is one of the biggest errors of interpretation.
  10. Cee

    Not By Works

    It's amazing to me that you try to live by the OT Scriptures, when Jews who devoted their entire life could not. And Jews who understand who Christ was counted all of their Jewish heritage as loss compared to knowing Him.
  11. Cee

    Not By Works

    I noticed you once again ignored every Scripture that disagrees with you. Only to post more OT Scripture that has a veil over it without understanding it though the lens of Christ. You're not even attempting to discuss Scripture. There's not a single 2 Co 3 in your entire response. Just more of...
  12. Cee

    Not By Works

    I didn't saw fulfilled was gone. I said it still existed for those who chose to live by it. For those in Christ it is fulfilled. You're either in Christ or you're not. But for those in Christ the Law is fulfilled. And now we live by faith in Him. As it is written the JUST shall live by faith...
  13. Cee

    Not By Works

    Yes inwardly. Not through observance to a Law that was given to Moses. We are Jews by faith. Here's the next 2 verses to that Scripture. 15We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; 16yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ...
  14. Cee

    Not By Works

    You're taking most of these out of context. For example Romans 3 is about the law's purpose to lead us to Christ. We establish it. Romans 7 is written to those who are still under the Law. Showing them that they need Christ. Romans 7:1 Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those...
  15. Cee

    Not By Works

    I figured you would go here. The law is not gone. It is fulfilled. Those who want to live by it. It still exists. But it's ministry for us believers has passed away. Your reply seems to indicate that you think obedience and commandments are to point you to the law. And you find OT Scripture...
  16. Cee

    Not By Works

    I've noticed that too. It makes sense though because Paul clearly refutes law-keeping. So they get to the point, that they either let the Scripture transform their interpretation or they toss out what doesn't agree.
  17. Cee

    Not By Works

    People who are unstable twist all Scripture. As you can see it says, as they do also the other Scriptures. Peter goes on to say... watch lest you fall but grow in favor and knowledge of Christ. This is how we watch ourselves from error. Notice he doesn't say grow in knowledge of the law, but...
  18. Cee

    Not By Works

    I've noticed this myself. It seems many times they just gloss right over his writings. And quote some other Scripture.
  19. Cee

    Not By Works

    You're right. I quickly quoted the wrong Scripture. This is the one I mean to quote: Acts 9:15 But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.
  20. Cee

    Not By Works

    Peter proclaimed God to the Gentiles before Paul came on the scene in Acts 10. 44While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. 45And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was...