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The cloves of fire is what was promised in Joel 2:28 as well as by Jesus in Acts 1.

I already said the baptism in view in Acts 2:38 was water baptism. But when the Spirit falls in ways that are manifest, it is never referring to water. Go read the post again. You might find some clarity.

You need to obey for it to be said you have genuine faith, but you only need to believe in order to be saved.

Wasn't Noah saved the moment he believed? God had already conferred His grace upon Noah. The reason we can know that Noah believed is because he did what God said. While it is true that if Noah had not built the ark that he wouldn't have been saved, but neither would it have been true that he...

I wasn't talking about faith in answering the post. I was speaking concerning spiritual and physical reality. Faith is evidenced in what someone does. People act upon what they believe. Apply this to baptism. Does someone get baptized who doesn't believe they should? Or do they believe they...

Those who built the temple I believe received knowledge in endeavors they had not previously known. Me...usually my knowledge came through the school of hard knocks.

Even where physical acts are required by God, it is the Spirit who does the action upon an individual. Did Peter heal the lame man or did God? Even if you believe water baptism is required for salvation, it would still be the Spirit who placed a believer into Christ.

Everyone who possesses any knowledge can be a teacher, and, in one sense, we all are. Some have natural gifts that make them better prepared to be teachers as well as knowledge gained through experience. There are also supernatural gifts that qualify people to teach on behalf of God. This...

Physical acts do not create spiritual reality. They may or may not indicate that spiritual activity has taken place.

You aren't taking enough.

That's what morphine does.

Belief happens a verse earlier. They heard, were pricked in the heart, and asked what someone in such an estate would do? This didn't occur because they didn't believe. It happened because they acted upon what they now believed.

I agree with that order.

I believe there are at least 4 baptisms spoken of in the NT: ...water baptism ...baptism with fire ...baptism with the Holy Spirit ...baptism by the Holy Spirit That said, I believe the baptism spoken of in Acts 2:38 is water baptism. But it wasn't the only baptism that took place that day. I...

Works follow belief. I'm not opposed to works, except as a means of obtaining grace.

They that beleive are already saved. Those that don't believe remain under condemnation. But you got the order correct. People first believe, and then act.

Agree. People indicting Trump falsely are also indicting those who voted for him as if we are for voter fraud.

That's what I've been explaining all along. Your idea of infinite isn't infinite. Your idea of God is limited.

It is for me. I don't have to accept a view as legitimate simply because it exists.

Now you are catching on. I think he has level 5 TDS on the @Eli1 scale.