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Jonah's preaching was pretty effective also. That wasn't the Gospel of Grace either .

Tell an atheist " Jesus is good news " for what he might ask .

I'm not questioning how a calvinist ' supports' his doctrines by scripture. A jehovah witness ' supports ' his doctrines with scripture . I said none of Calvinism s central doctrines are explicitly stated . Not one time does the bible SAY what the Calvinist teaches .

" Jesus is the good news " . Yes but what about Jesus and when ? His birth ? If you were there at his birth what about Jesus would you say was good news ? It certainly was bad news for the disciples when Jesus died. They were distraught at his death . They also didn't believe the resurrection...

Yes at least we have something to work with there . But the good news is not " Jesus" or 'Genesis to revelation " . This is what some are saying ..Just a generic statement.

No resurrection there ?

What about Jesus is good news ? being born as a baby ?

Yes you need a verse that says Noah built an Ark otherwise we've made it up . Thankfully we have one ( or two )

Verse ?

Yes I disagree with you saying the Holy Spirit died on the cross.

My reasons are scripture. If it was what the bible said then i would believe it .

When you say " The gospel is ..... You need a verse that says what you claim.

This is a serious question . Let's look at ' regeneration precedes faith ' This doctrine colours the calvinists entire way they view the bible. You would think they have a verse which actually says this or a verse that says man cannot believe the Gospel. What you will find with all 5 points...

You say // Call it self-will if you like. The old, natural, unregenerate man has no self-will to respond to or follow God. He is at enmity with God, a child of wrath. For him the gospel is foolishness. All this is scripture, and you know that.// None of this says man cannot believe the Gospel .

And yet no scripture says man cannot believe the Gosepl .

Why would we discount any of the bible ? even the parts that are not to us ? All of the bible ( every verse ) is FOR us , but not all is TO us .

Its called 'we notice things different' ism .

whenever I need a good laugh I watch clips such as these on Acts 2.38