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how is it a bad analogy? you talk about bearing fruit. then, when presented with a real life question about a tree bearing fruit ( in this case, a nut, but same thing). you have a short circuit and just yell " BIBLE ". one more chance- is the pecan tree still a pecan tree, even though it did...

no, you did not answer the question. you just repeated your belief. i'll say it again- my pecan tree did not bear good fruit last year. is the pecan tree still a pecan tree, and if so, why?

if you do not want to answer the question, just say so.

since you like to talk about trees and fruit so much, here is a real life question- I have a big pecan tree. due to my area getting 20 inches of rain over average, the tree did not produce any good pecans. here is the question- is the pecan tree still a pecan tree, and if so, why?

here is why I call you a legalist- I have repeatedly agreed with you that Christians are supposed to be doing good works, yet because I am not word-for-word agreeing with you, you continue to argue. that is what legalist do- micro-manage how to be a Christian.

I have said over and over that Christians are supposed to being doing good works. the good works that God prepared for us. yet, just like all you legalists , that is not good enough. no one owes you any answers except yes, Christians are supposed to being about doing good works.

have you ever thought that maybe you are just making up a false premise? Christians are supposed to do go works, bear good fruit. I personally just want to go to Heaven, be with the Lord, and away from this sick, twisted world. that will be my reward. I do want a 100 room mansion. i'll be...

I say you are very deceptive indeed. the very next verse ( Romans 4 v.5-) " however, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly , their faith is credited as righteousness.". isolating Scripture and building theology is bad .

so, tell us, have you completely stopped sinning ?

I see what you are saying, but, I also see how lawyers and workers are going to jump on statements like that, and say " see, they are promoting easy believeism ". I just caution - don't give them ammunition . they love to twist things.

all right. it's there. I stand corrected.

I did read the links you provided. nowhere in them were the words " can be a believer for many years without bearing any fruit ". so, I ask you a 3rd time- show a post where those words are written.

you have provided documentation for what you THINK someone is saying. where are the words " can be a believer for many years and bear no fruit"? you claim this is being said. where are those words?

show one post where someone says " .. can be a believer for many year without bearing any fruit ". show a post one someone types out these words.

good morning to you to! hope you have a blessed day!

also notice- all the workers and lawyers break Scripture into pieces and build theology around the pieces, trying to make the Bible contradict. those of us who know Scripture know that it does not contradict, as long as one keeps it in the grace -faith-works system.

I do not say that belief is a mental activity. the LANGUAGE says it. greek word for believe- pisteuo- definition- to think to be true, to entrust, put confidence in, to be persuaded of. now, are these not mental activities ??

can you not comprehend what is written? I said " a true believer will do good works " I am not saying that being a Christian is just a mental activity. I am saying that one is saved by grace, through faith , for good works, as Paul said. salvation is only granted to those who believe in Christ...

what I have been and will say is this- words have definitions. when the definition of words are tossed out, and others are attached ( like believe means works or command keeping ), then that is wrong. so, I agree with what you say, I also say " true belief will result in good works , that of...

so, let me guess- a true Christian has the Holy Sprit, ( as do you ). the Holy Sprit will enlighten one with the true meaning of Scripture ( as you know ), so as long as one believes just as you , then they are saved ( as are you ). no thank you, this type of " Don't trust the Bible " junk...