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and what are those commands? same man, same letter, 3rd chapter. believe on the name of the Son and love one another. so, if you believe, you are obeying.

some people refuse to put themselves under the authority of Scripture, instead they give themselves authority over Scripture, and make it say what they want, instead of accepting what it says, and means.

what is the Gospel? believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. you yourself spelled out the definition of believe. it does NOT mean to obey. a Christ follower obeys BECAUSE they are a Christ follower. not to be one.

so you lay out the proper definition of believe, then you add " obey " as a definition, obedience is the RESULT of believing. not a cause. you and fran really need to accept the definition of believe, and not add to it. dishonest lying has no place in Christianity.

and what are the commands John was referring to? believe in the name of the Son, and love one another. ( chapter 3). when you quote Scripture about command keeping, it is good to understand what the commands are...

words have definitions. believe means a mental activity. and yes, a true believer will obey, not to maintain salvation, but because one is saved.

saying the same thing over and over will not make it true.

no, it's not.

thus says the person who does not accept the definition of " believe ".

sure it is. they worship the Virgin Mary and the current pope is pro-open borders. tells me all in need to know.

I know the feeling. I got really ticked off with studyman several times, wanted to go on a tirade. that is why it is best to use the ignore people who do not want to have a truthful debate, but just keep pushing the same disinformation , even after they have been clearly shown their wrong...

Acts 16- after the earthquake that freed Paul and Silas , the jailors asked them " sirs, what must I do to be saved" Paul- " believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household ". maybe you need to spend more time studying and less time spouting off about command...

why don't you just tell us what you think. I mean, many of us understand this asking, asking , asking is an argument tactic, so you can spin every answer into your theology. if you just say what you think, then some may ask YOU some questions, which would put you on the defensive, and then you...

my Bible must be defective. it has a lot more letters and Gospels in it, other than James.... but, in some ones ( wrong ) opinion, James is all their is to the N.T. '

on the mount of transfiguration , God the Father came down, and in the presence of Moses ( the Law ) and Elijah ( the prophets ) and said of the Son ' hear Him!'. this elevates and separates the words in red over all other Scripture. if folks understood this, then all the fighting over O.T...

nope. religious talk. not Biblical talk. our responsibility is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

it seems that some have a hard time understanding " not of yourself, it is the gift of God ". but, a lot of the lawyers and work salvationists do not think Paul's letters are Scripture. many won't admit that ( some will), but many of them do believe Paul's letters have no authority.

what people like bilk ignore is this- we are to fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law. not keep the letter. the letter kills, the Sprit gives life. as Christ followers, we are to be manifesting the fruits of the Sprit, against which there is no law, of course, keeping the Sabbath is...

or maybe in her case, read it for the first time. a lot of plucking verses out of context and refusing to recognize the definition of words going on with the banned-but-back-one.

I think some people need to meditate on " dead in our trespasses and sins, made alive in Christ Jesus." notice- made alive. not will be made alive if..........