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just so anyone posting or reading this will know- the O.P, does not recognize any definitions of words that he choses , he just makes up his own meanings, with out care for the actual language, in another thread, he and I were discussing the definition of sin, he stated that the greek language...

it is 100% your fault. you have spoke about bearing fruit over 30 times just in the last day. this was not a big discussion until you blew up about about what doc said, and have been blowing up about it for months, even after have been proven wrong in your instant fruit belief many, many...

here is my point on this- a few years ago, a planted a tabasco pepper plant. within 6-8 weeks, it shot up to about six feet tall. then, nothing. no blooms, just a tall green plant. june, nothing. july, nothing, aug. nothing. sep. nothing. thought several times about pulling it up and tossing it...

in the scheme of things, some bear fruit quicker than others. we are saved by nothing more than faith and belief in Christ. bearing fruit is a result of salvation. when you or anyone attaches bearing fruit to the cause or maintaining salvation, then that is wrong. we have been asked by a...

what I am saying is this- it could be day 1, it could be day 10, it could be day 100. it could be....... we are to bear fruit, we should not time frame how long it takes , because the Bible lays out no time frame for this to manifest.

here you go. right here, first paragraph, you obsessing over how long it takes for one to bear fruit. if the shoe fits....

what you say is o.k. until you get to how long it takes to bear fruit. there is no time limit . when you obsess over this, this makes you a fruit inspector,].

John did not write Romans. do not wrongly connect Scripture.

I never said love was not a fruit, I never said we are not to bear fruit , I never said we are not to obey, that sin is not a big deal. never said any of these things. what I do say is this- these things are a RESULT of salvation, not a cause, not a maintainer of salvation...

what commands are John referring to? chapter 3, same letter- the commands - " believe in the name of Son, and love one another,". and, John means any who claim to be a Christ follower, yet live a lifestyle of sin, has not been born of God. so, there is that. this is not fruit inspecting...

I am telling you what you are. I can prove it to you by the comparing the definition of the words " inspector " and " legalist " to your posts. disagreeing with a man-made teaching does not make one wicked.

so, thanks for sharing your love by calling me wicked. same thing as saying " this place is full of old, bitter retired people " yep, sprit of love on display. I take no pleasure in standing up to your and your silly church and it's silly, lying, man-made creed; I want you and all people to...

more whining from the fruit inspector. you sure do like telling others what to do, don't you?? I would tell you what you can do, but I would bet banned, so you can guess.

you do not think grace is free, and you do not accept the Biblical definition of sin. your lecturing is useless.

here is the thing people- judeaizers tie everything to Sabbath keeping for salvation. so, the whole Resurrection undermines this. so, they come in and say " celebrate Passover, not Easter. keep the Sabbath, do NOT go to church on sunday." they even try to convince us we are worshiping pagan...

the walk to Emmaus.

keep in mind, the person who stared this thinks you have to keep the jewish Sabbath to be saved. you have to go back several months, but if you go through the past posts , you will see this.

* at dawn, on the first day of the week.

follwingpeterjensteps does not even recognize the actual definition of sin. he is one who needs teaching, he needs not to be taken seriously .

I think you are correct.