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now, here is something we agree on.

I agree. but, the issue between he-who-shall-not-named is and me- he wants to time frame fruit bearing, when Scripture does not. for example , some come to Christ, and quit drug and alcohol addictions immediately , while some struggle for years to finally get clean. is one more " saved " than...

things will get better when you get off your fake religious high horse, stay out of other people's affairs ( d c and agruless), and GET OVER SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID MONTHS AGO. your obsession with this is why there is constant blowback on you.

just feel free to stick your nose in anyone's business, tell the site how to moderate. that is very Christian behavior....

I agree with this- but the macbus dude wants to put a stopwatch on how long it takes for this to happen. that is my beef with him. there is not set time frame for one to start bearing fruit, he lies and says that there is.

take the plank out of your own eye. who are you to judge another's servant? those are just off the top of my head, but you get the idea.

you have refuted nothing- you said " new Christian- able to bear fruit' so, let's think- new Christian - bearing fruit. you used the word " able ". so, by doing this, you very carefully say that a new believer is supposed to be bearing fruit. or, in other words, if the answer is " yes, a new...

I make no error, I see exactly what you said in that post- time and fruit. it's your whole platform. you can play word games, use plausible denial tactics all you want, anyone can read back over your posts, and see a clear pattern.

all right, just keep pretending that you are not a judgemental fruit checker, but do not falsely accuse me of providing no evidence of your own words.

I already did. and, as far as that goes, it is the general tone and theme of what you say ( obsess over) that I refer to, not just specific posts.

here you go. unprompted, you just throw this out there.

you prove it with most of your posts. it's pretty much all you talk about.

no one here saying that a believer is not supposed to bear fruit. judgemental fruit checkers like you want to time how long with a stop watch.

only those who refuse to accept the Biblical definition of sin ( and one who is full of puffed-up arrogant pride ) would make the claim that he could be just like Jesus. instead of bowing at the feet of the Savior, in a sense of our unworthiness , and thanking Him profusely for what He did for...

so, now the Sermon on the Mount, which you say ( rightly so ) is to be obeyed, NOW you call it a " set of ideas". this is someone who relies on their *feelings for direction, just long winded theology , blowing around in the wind, no facts to ground it.....

facts do matter more than feelings and emotions. feelings and emotions are fluid and change like the wind. facts are stable. they do not change . that is why facts should be used as the standards of sin and righteousness, not feelings. your " I do not sin because I really, strongly , feel like...

honest answer- I do, but not as well as I should. my pastor told about his recent attending of an AA meeting, saying that it amazed him how these people just stood up and confessed all kinds of stuff, a lot of which most of us ( who are not addicted ) would not do. his point was- that was...

this is why I hammer this at you so hard- if you do not properly recognize sin, then you will have unconfessed sin on your account. it is so vitally important to see things how God sees things, and not let our human thinking and reasoning get in between . recognize the Biblical definition of...

dc says a lot of things. you obsess over this one thing, and you have done so for months.

on and on you go, obsessing over time, checking fruit, you did not judge in this post, but i.m sure you will .that is what you legalists do.