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ah, I was waiting on someone to throw up the " and the stranger.." let's go to Leviticus. at the end of that book God speaks to Moses about the Covenant He made with " the fathers of those brought out of Egypt ". what covenant? the One He made with Israel at Sinai. what was in that Covenant...

lets take 1st John. if you keep reading, John goes on to say the Commands are to believe in the name of the Son and love one another. ( chapter 3). that echoes what He ( John ) wrote in His Gospel- Jesus ( sent His only Son, whosoever believes...) ( a new Command I give you, love one another...

God said that to Israel at Sinai. gentiles were never under the Law, hence never commanded to keep the Sabbath. in the Acts 15 letter to the gentiles, after a meeting by the Apostles , no Sabbath keeping was mentioned in the letter to the gentiles.

lots of twisting and explaining away here. i'll just pick one - the jews kept days from sundown till sundown. so, as far as Paul preaching until midnight, after the Sabbath ended at sun down, well, just fast forward things about 8-10 hours, so since our days end at midnight, and we Christians...

by the Jews way of keeping days, Jesus would have died on thur. afternoon. ( 1 ) . then in the grave through the sun. fri. till sundown sat. ( 2). then, He rose overnight, after sundown, ( 3) . then, the women came to the tomb on sun. morning , ( while it was still dark).

oh, He is. some buy into the conspiracy theory that Jesus was raised on the Sabbath, as the sun went down, not overnight and the women found the empty tomb sun. morning. ( the jews counted their days from sundown to sundown ).

anyone who says things like this are either in a cult-like denomination , or they have a Law/works agenda to push, or they just don't know what they are talking about.

of course Paul came to synagogue on the Sabbath, that is when the Jewish writings were read, of course gentiles who wanted to hear them came also. Paul was a jew, born under the Law kept the Sabbath, he also kept the Day of Atonement , ( the Fast ), I noticed you said nothing about the verses...

Acts 20 7. 1st Corinthians 16 1,2. and, not to mention, Luke 24 1, " now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning...."

just more judeaizer twisting and promoting the Sabbath, not to mention all the other references in the N.T. letters about Christ followers meeting on Sun.

yes, I get so tired of all the Israel/ Zionism non-sense. they are so many real. easily provable things going on, yet they want to chase conspiracy theories shadows..

ah, here we go= Paul contradicts Jesus . so, Law keeping for salvation. Sabbath keeping for salvation. ( you did not say that here, you will get to it) you all operate from the same script- show up here, act friendly, say you " just want to try to share and learn" then you start knit picking...

yes, this is true. nice after long disagreements , we can find a little piece of common ground.

yep, good way to say it, see things as God sees things ( the pastor at my church says this also). that would include sin. sin is more than just outright rebellion . sin is missing the mark, falling short of a standard. we ( you to ) need to understand what sin is before saying others are "...

well, yes and no. the first sentence is true. but, sinning is missing the mark, falling short of a standard, which can be done without willfully doing so. so. we have to be careful not to create " sin categories " . it can give people a false sense of thinking that as long as they are not...

all this started about 3-4 months ago, when doctroversial said something not manifesting the fruits of the Spirt for 50 years, in response to macbus saying that one will instantly start doing good works. macbus went off on a weeks long tirade about this, it's been months and he is STILL going...

yes, after a full fledged meltdown over the weekend, he took a few hours off, and now the temper tantrums tirades have resumed...

see here you go. someone disagrees or questions what you say, you go off on a tirade. this is why I am not going to interact with you , mr. " I know everything and I am never wrong". you need to learn some humility and let things go.

my girlfriend's mom died earlier this year, it was her favorite also. sure is going to be sad not looking for cardinal stuff for her birthday and Christmas....

yes, what lordship salvation is basically " pleagianism lite " ( pleagianism ) denies the sin nature, or in some cases, teaches that when one is truly saved, the sin nature is 100% gone, and a person no longer sins at all, and if that do, it is willful rebellion .