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renewed Faith from the natural man is of the law Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the...

renewed Thats correct, Whenever you the word world in scripture in the context of Salvation, like Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Jn 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying...

renewed I know what God says it is, but I am afraid you dont. Justification by Faith is when God given Faith from the New Birth points the blood washed sinner to its object of Justification the Lord Jesus Christ.

renewed Righteousness has been imputed when one believes. The object of Faith is back at the resurrection of Christ when He arose because of their Justification, after Christ put away their sins.

renewed Its obvious you dont understand this passage, and you are not teachable. Yet Rom 4:25 proves that those Christ died for, when He arose it was because of their Justification Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification. And...

renewed Were you get this foolishness ? God Justifys mankind ?

renewed False, I have provided plenty of scripture support, you cant see it. Its true that by God given faith, we receive a conscious knowledge of our Justification before God at the cross. Thats what Faith is Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not...

renewed Not true. Rom 5:10 plainly says that believers had been reconciled to God while being enemies, by the death of Gods Son 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. When we were enemies...

renewed Thats fine for believing to be in the present tense, yet the believing is giving credence to what occurred in the past at the cross, where their Justification took place, which was before they began to believe, or even before they were born for that matter. And no an ungodly person...

renewed Right, so the elect were Justified while ungodly, while an unbeliever by the blood of Christ. And since scripture expressly declares that God was justifying the ungodly, it had to be while they were unbelievers, because once a person believes, they are called believers, saints, godly...

renewed Yes that's right, God justified the ungodly elect by Christs blood, prior to giving them faith so they would believe. Faith embraces the fact that they were Justified by Christs blood at the cross Rom 5:9 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath...

renewed A person that Christ died for, an elect, they are Justified before God before prior to any work of the Spirit upon them or in them. Now once they are born again and believe they are no longer ungodly, yet they were Justified before God before they were born again and believed.

renewd Thats your confusion not mine. A person is ungodly by nature, before they are born again. And if they are elect, they are Justified while unregenerate.

renewed God justifieth the ungodly, therefore they are justified before faith, while being ungodly. Now this applies only to Gods elect, for they are the only ones Christ died for. Rom 8:33-34 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he...

renewed God saves His Elect from such a plight by His Grace and Mercy, and turns them to Himself, the turning must come from God. Acts 3:26 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Jesus turns those He...

renewed Rom 1:18-32 didnt apply to the saints, yet it was written to the saints.How can you confuse such ? The whole Letter was written to the Saints, yet everything doesnt have to apply to them. Rom 1:18-32 applied to the reprobate world which God had distinguished the Saints from.

renewed See how you dishonestly twist things ? I said Rom 12:3 the giving of Faith to every man applied to only believers, the saints.

renewed No, they had been begotten of God, born of God is in the aorist past and passive voice, that's an action from the past. Now anyone knows that an action/activity comes after birth. So the receiving, believing both actions, came after having been born of God !

renewed Yes, but they were born again previously in order to believe on Him, to receive Him. Thats what Vs 13 tells us !

Again, Jn 1:12-13 Vs 13 gives the foundation of why some during the ministry of Christ did receive Him and believed on His name, opposed to the many many that did not receive Him in Israel, they did because they had been born of God. Jesus said later why some hear Him Jn 8:47 47 He that is of...