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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Brings all to Faith ! Jn 12:32-33 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33 This he said, signifying what death he should die. If Christ by His death/being lifted up, draws all men unto Him, this word draw speaks to have been given life, or communicated life...
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    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    God Loves them He is going to destroy forever instaed of saving them ! Give me a break ! Ps 103:4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies; God redeems those He Loves from destruction, Hes ever so merciful to them ! Sounds like you...
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    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Has nothing to do with confusion, Its about the supernatural, Gods works are supernatural, thats not confusion save maybe in your mind.
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    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    Were these who shall be destroyed forever, ever Loved by God ? Dis Jesus die for their sins ?
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    And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

    kleronomos How do you know ? This is speaking about supernatural Spiritual matters that God does.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justified freely by His Grace ! Rom 3:24 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Many calling themselves believers or christians do make a claim to believe this Truth of " Justification freely by the Grace of God" , but its my privilege to tell...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    By His stripes we are healed or saved ! 3 That Christ's death alone saved, healed, converted all for whom He died, is taught beyond all doubt here Isa 53:5 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    He was raised again for/because of Our Justification ! Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. 25 Jesus was ·given to die [handed/delivered over; 8:32] ·for [because of] our ·sins [violations; transgressions], and he was raised from the dead...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    If He died for us, we are Justified ! Rom 8:33-34 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats false, and it promotes Justification by works Thats True, Faith here is the Spirits testification to the already Justified person, the person was Justified by the Blood of Christ alone, and God gives that person Faith to know it in their own heart.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Unbelief is a sin that Christ died for, so its never laid to the charge of Gods elect, Christ saves them from it. Now for those who continue on in unbelief, Christ never died for them, He was not their sheep, and consequently die in their sins, which includes unbelief Jn 8:24 24 I...
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Both Faith and Repentance are the fruit of Christs Death and our reconciliation to Him. All for whom He died have been reconciled to God Rom 5:10 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. So...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats because Christ didnt die for those who continue in unbelief permanently. In that case, all sin is unpardonable . If Christ died for someone, their unbelief is pardoned, and they are given the gift of Faith as proof.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You cant get around it, since you teach that sinners Christ died for shall still be lost in their sins, that amounts to Christs death being worthless to them. Christ came to save His People from their sins, and He did Matt 1:21, His death ,made the difference from saved and lost, you deny that.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    1 Jn 5:1 and John 1:12-13 teach that new birth preceded and is the cause of Faith, believing on Christ.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Those verses pertain to the elect, Gods chosen people from all ethnicities.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed it is, ask Christ Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renew Like Jesus said, human faith is required under the Law Matt 23:23, since you make your appeal to human faith being a requirement for salvation/justification, you foolishly put yourself under law requirements.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yep, in fact, you make anything a condition that must be done prior to God Justifying you, technically its law, the principle of law is do and then live. Grace is the opposite, Its Live then do !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Sure you not, since you believe that Justification is conditioned upon your human faith, which is work merit salvation !