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renewed Yes I agree with this Disagree, the elect are part of the Body of Christ before they are born again, for they were Chosen in Christ before foundation of the world Eph 1:4 so they were part of His Body way before they were born again, or even before they were born period. Correct...

renewed The elect can be and are Justified while being ungodly/unbelievers, but they cant believe while being ungodly, its that simple.

renewed The Elect are Justified while being ungodly/unbelievers. Thats proven by Rom 4:25

All this is so confusing, you just posting without any direction and clarity.

As already proven, believing is resultive of having been born again.

renewed Just went over this issue. Hearing comes out of having life, just like seeing does. The fact that the Ephesians heard the word of truth, a spiritual message, was indicative of being in a spiritually saved state, born again by the Spirit, afterwards the believed, and the Spirit sealed...

Its you who dont understand scripture and now twisting it to your disfavor, and promote the very opposite to what the passage teaches, Justification by your works !

renewed Thats not talking about the faith of the natural man. False, those Chosen in Him are also elect, Peter addresses them 1 Pet 1:2 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus...

Yes, the way you present Faith its law keeping, because your view is not biblical !

renewed I believe Heb 4:12 is speaking of Jesus Christ, the Logos of God, since its said of Him that He is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart, The bible doesnt do that, also in Vs 13 its called Him/His 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any...

renewed Yeah I explained that to you. One needs to have God open up their understanding spiritually to understand the scripture. Again its implied, thats good enough. You believe the scripture , the bible is for the natural man to pick up and read it understand it and get saved . The...

renewed Yes, one must be born again spiritually to believe. Believing on Christ is Spiritual. And one is only born again once. Faith is the fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Yes Love is a fruit of...

renewed Believing is given Phil 1:29 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; The word given is an aorist passive indicative, it has been given and the given means: charizomai which is the middle voice of charis...

renewed Most def, no true Gospel without it You must do that to deny it [limited atonement] and you are accountable to God for that. See you at the Judgment !

Just know this, the Gospel is hid to them that are lost, their minds are blinded 2 Cor 4:3-4. The word hid is in the perfect tense, they are in a permanent state of having the gospel hid from them, so they cannot believe the Gospel. The only ones who hear the Gospel and believe are the saved...

Its you that teach that sinners Christ died for shall still die in their sins, therefore that equates to Christs death being worthless, from that your viewpoint, I preach that all the sinners Christ died for, the elect, have their sins forgiven because of His death Matt 26:28 28 For this is my...

Jesus died only for those who believe on Him ! Thats why they believed on Him, because He died for them and saved them out of unbelief.

Its not offered, its proclaimed, preached. A preacher of the Gospel freely preachs it, but its not offered. What Christ did, wasn't an offer, it was the accomplishment of a work, a covenant transaction between He and the Father. The only offering that took place was when He offered Himself to...

It set us free from unbelief , a servant of sin ! Christ death was for the purpose of setting free from unbelief/servitude of sin for all whom He died, if it did not produce that result for each of them He died for, it failed the purpose of God. Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is...

God is Just in Justifying the Ungodly !2 Now its only True that God is Justifying the Ungodly, only if indeed they have been Justified before Him while being Ungodly ! The Death/Blood of Christ is the basis of God Justifying them, not because of their believing, being obedient, but while being...