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  1. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    Yes, I agree! For we will be watching it take place from above. And blessings in Christ to you as well.
  2. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Good day DeighAnn, The following is what happens once the dead in Christ are resurrected and the living church is changed and caught up: "My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    Hi Ahwatukee, i know we keep going back and forth on this issue, but, all i wanted to offer is my understanding of which nation i consider Babylon the Great to be. The reason i keep inferring that maybe you lack objectivity on the issue is because you seem to want to ignore the finer points of...
  4. Ahwatukee

    The two Beasts of Revelation 13 Identified

    Good day Nebuchadnezzer, I agree with you, as in a previous post I cited the pope's and the church of Rome's part in the inquisitions and those they imprisoned, property confiscation, tortured and many burned. I also agree that Rome is that fourth beast which is represented by the belly and...
  5. Ahwatukee

    Can A Merciful God Condemn A Man To Hell Who Has Never Heard The Gospel, And Justify Himself In Doing So?

    You have to remember that all people are guilty of sin and the reward of which is death. You also have to remember that it is by God's Sovereign choice those who have been selected to be saved and that through faith. But to go further, God says that no one, even those currently will be without...
  6. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Hello DeighAnn, Jesus said, "I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." Emphasis on "I will build" which is future, indicative, active, meaning that it had not previously been built. Beginning with the apostles up to this very moment, the church has been in...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Can A Merciful God Condemn A Man To Hell Who Has Never Heard The Gospel, And Justify Himself In Doing So?

    No one will be without excuse regarding the gospel and here's why: "Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Hello everyone! :)

    Greetings and Welcome, Rhubarbcub! You mentioned wandering away from your faith and that you don't know much about what the Bible teaches or how to be a good Christian. There are two things right off the bat that will help you to stay grounded in Christ, which is to make time to study His word...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    Afrikan, what country has not forsaken God? Leaving their first love was the error of the Ephesian church. Not everyone has forsaken God. There are believers mixed in with unbelievers in every country on every continent. When God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding...
  10. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Right on! That is exactly what I was going to point out.
  11. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    The thought of the US being Babylon is not unsettling to me in any way, so please stop inferring that. My purpose is to contend for the truth. America in no way could be Babylon and that because the woman is a city that sits on seven hills, which you continue to ignore. Those clues were put...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    Yes, it chock full of symbolism, but it is also chocked full of literal meanings, which is why it is important to be able to discern what is symbolic from what is literal. Not at all! The descriptions in chapter 17 match those of that city described in chapter 18 perfectly. Chapter 17...
  13. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Good day Pinkney, The bride and the body are the same, just using different monikers to refer to the church. The word rapture is not in the Greek translation, but the word "harpazo" is, meaning a snatching away, force suddenly exercised, a catching up. The word rapture is found in the Latin...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Mystery Babylon

    Good day Afrikan! It is important to pay attention to the details of scripture in order to come to a right interpretation. Consider the following: "The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.” The angel tells John that woman that John saw is that great city...
  15. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    It would seem so, if that were true. :rolleyes:
  16. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    The church is not the nation Israel. The church is made up of both Jew and Gentile. The nation Israel is a separate dispensation whom God has unfinished business with. For regarding them He said: "Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put...
  17. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    RevelationMan, the two witnesses are just two witnesses. They do no represent any churches. The true church will have been removed from the earth in Rev.4:1, which is why we don't see the word "church" used any more. The scripture states that "the breath of life from God enters them" and a...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Luke 17 - Where are they taken?

    That is half correct in that, there will be both the righteous and the wicked who will have made it alive through the entire tribulation period. Those who make it through who rejected Jesus, worshiped the beast, his image and received his mark, are the "one taken" group and who will be killed by...
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    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Good day RevelationMan, Yes, I do believe that "what we believe has something to do with what happens to us. For example, Paul spoke about Hymenaeus and Philetus, who were teaching that the resurrection had already taken place of which he called godless chatter and that those who indulge in it...
  20. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Your error is not recognizing that the Lord's appearing to gather the church as being a separate event from the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. When the church is gathered, Jesus calls up both the dead and the living to meet Him in the air. He does not to return to the earth at that...