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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    No pistola, there are no "pieces of God Himself." The Holy Spirit is God Himself as well as God the Father and God the Son. In other words, there is only one being of God who manifest Himself as three distinct persons. He does not manifest Himself as three distinct beings because that would be...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    Well let me ask you, do you know what the "age of accountability is?" The age of accountability has to do with those who die before reaching an of those who die never having the ability to make a decision for or against Jesus Christ. Some say due to the Jewish custom that a child becomes an...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    I'm lol because you said you became a Christian "accidentally?" With God there are no "accidents." God chooses us, we do not choose Him. And your right, we are saved through grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8,9). The Old Testament saints were saved by grace and faith as well. What was your...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    Your taking John 8:44 out of context message. Jesus is addressing the Pharisees who did not believe a word Jesus had said and we claiming that He had a demon. This is a far cry from a normal person not yet saved but is seeking answers about how salvation is aquired as in what to do. Jesus said...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    What I agree with is what King David said at Psalm 51:5, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." Without exception we (as in all humans) are born with a sin nature we inhereted from Adam. So tell me, how were the Old Testament Saints saved before Jesus...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    Well that's what I'm asking you, walk me through your salvation experinece, what did you do pisteuo? Secondly, don't assume that I have no interest otherwise I would not be asking you questions. The other thing to consider is what if someone ask you how and when did you get saved or what did you...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    Well let me try it this way? At what point of reference did you become a Christian and what did you do to become a Christian? In other words, kindly explain your salvation journey? And just in case, do you consider yourself a Christian, and if so how long have you been a Christian? :eek: PS...
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    What's that mean your establishing points of reference? In Him bluto
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    Are we born into this world with the Spirit of Christ?

    This is not hard to understand! Your making a moutain out of a mole hill. Read all of Romans 8 and tell me what point the Apostle Paul is making according to the context? Secondly, who is Paul writing to, believers or unbelievers? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    PRE- MID- POST TRIBULATION.... JESUS RETURN TO EARTH FOR HIS BRIDE!

    Let me state right now that I'm a post-tribulationist guy. I use to be a pre-trib guy well over 50 years ago until I really studied this thing out. I also know who chuck missler is and I learned something today when he said, "Take heed that no man deceive you." (Matthew 24:4). Look at vs3 and...
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    Thanks angela, I just learned something. And continue to fight the good fight sister. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluo
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    That would be the following person: https://christianchat.com/members/nwl.133144/#recent-content He is a jw and he seems to have disappeared. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    First of all, whether your a jw or not you still made a statement that is not true unless you can explain how Jesus is created and uncreated? That was the point of my post. Secondly, I was not created and neither were you or anybody else for that matter. I think C.S Lewis explains it very...
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    You made this "asinine" statement noose. "So Jesus is much created just like you are created but He is also un created; something that is hard to understand. When we say created, we mean all created things (more precisely, visible things or material things). In this case, Jesus was created some...
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    In light of my OP I'm wondering why you brought up Proverbs 8? I didn't mention in my post? So, since you did bring up Proverbs 8 I will address your point about "this person" (wisdom) was beside the Lord helping in creation etc. Wisdom is "NOT" a person according to Proverbs 8. Wisdom is...
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    And your point is what, Jesus is a created being? IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    I'm sorry nwl, but I'm unable to post the follwing to your response.

    Bumped for NWL. IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Please, don't assume what I know or don't know. I'm well aware that suffering, pain and death are in the world and it affects even Christians, I'm a rational empircist or realist if you will. I also know why Jesus came the "first" time according to Hebrews 9:28, "so Christ also, having been...
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    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    What I stated has nothing to do with lot going to Zoar at Genesis 19:30. I was just letting you know that at Genesis 19:1 the two actual angels who took the form of men went on to Sodom, that's all. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Do you want the truth? Here is the truth about eschatology

    Horse Hockey! This "asinine" statement of yours does not make any sense. "If you are planning to book an air ticket, so that you can fly to Israel from Canada or wherever, to hide on some mountain because Jerusalem has been surrounded by armies." Look, Jesus at Matthew 24:14 explains in the...