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So are you saying that the preincarnate Jesus Christ is not only the person of "Melchizedek" but also the angel of the Lord as well? Secondly, did you ever research why Melchizedek was without father and mother. Thirdly, please read the entire chapter of Genesis 14 and you will discoverat...

Umn no blik, Jesus raised Himself and so did the Father and the Holy Spirit. John 2:19, "Destroy this temple and in three days I WILL RASIE IT UP." At vs21 it says, "But He was speaking of the temple of His body." Secondly, on this same note the Spirit also rasied Jesus, read Romans 8:11. The...

You've made a lot of statements matt which I can address but I want to focus on what you said here: " In the Old Testament God the Father said, is there a God beside Me, yea, there is no God, I know not any. And before Me there was no God formed, and neither shall there be after Me, I am the...

One what lillywolf? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Ok deade, I have not forgotten about you. And for all those reading this post I am a Trinitarian. I was playing "Devil's advocate" when I posted Revelation 3:14, Isaiah 9:6 and other verses to mr. jersey the starter of this thread. Now, the word Trinity is not found in the Bible and neither is...

Yes, this is what I wrote to lilly. "Actually lillywold I am a Trinitarian. If you look at my post to mr. jersey I put the letters "pda" under my name which stands for "playing devil's advocate." I wanted to see how he addressed the verses I gave him like Revelation 3:14 which the Jw's use to...

You said deade, "I am in a way." That's kind like a woman saying, "I'm kind of pregnant." I fully understand there are a million examples trying to explain the Trinity and I also understand the argument that no one can comprehend or understand God etc. therefore it's no use trying to explain...

Actually lillywold I am a Trinitarian. If you look at my post to mr. jersey I put the letters "pda" under my name which stands for "playing devil's advocate." I wanted to see how he addressed the verses I gave him like Revelation 3:14 which the Jw's use to show Jesus is a created being, as well...

But Revelation 3:14 says Jesus is created and at John 14 it says Jesus is the Father and also at Isaiah 9:6. bluto pda Just out of curiosity are you a Trinitarian deade? bluto

Good grief, don't you have anything else better to do, (like studying your Bible) than to make a big deal about people having a personal relationship with God? Even if the phrase, "personal relationship" is not specifically stated in the Bible the concept a relationship with God/Jesus Christ is...

Your the one that made the following ridiculous statement (one among many), " Eternal horror is not what an everlasting loving merciful God has in store for even one of his children. You need a new Church. Seriously. There are over 50 verses that simply state all peoples are saved." I then...

You think chucky? The following is what love incarnate said at Matthew 23:27-37. I'm just going to highlighht the verses. vs 27, "Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites." vs28, you are inwardly full of hypocrisy and laswlessness." Vs31, "you bear witness against yourselves, that you are...

None of those verses say that all men will be saved. If a man wants to be saved or be born again what does he have to do? Do you need a hint? :rolleyes: :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Oh please, give me a break. I've been a Christian over 55 years now, been shot at, rocketed, wounded and you think I'm afraid of you and what you say? You still have not given me one verse which says that all men are saved? Go ahead, give it to me, I'll wait. Keep in mind your in the big leagues...

What does the Nephilim have to do with anything? And I don't need you to lecture me about the Book of Enoch, it's not inspired Scripture despite the fact that Jude at vs14-15 quoted the book. The Apostle Paul quoted the writings of Epimenides at Titus 1:12, does that mean his writings should be...

I'm well aware of that, thank you! :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Listen carefully jaybird. I quoted John 3:16 which explicitly says, "For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not parish, but have eternal life." So tell me, in what respect is Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of His Father since we are sons...

Why is it that you presume to know how I feel? I'm not at all upset, in fact I feel great. And why don't you please explain to all of us here reading this that there are certain things you "deem" fruitless and irrelevant? If that's the case why are you even here? And who's bickering over...

No, I am not yelling at him. If you would notice the caps I used are highlighting the parts that say, "ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED BY HIM." My emphasis is on Jesus Christ is God because He is the creator. Get it? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto