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    Things that need to be believed for salvation

    Well, you must be a oneness pentecostal trying to promote one must be water baptized to be saved. Now, you said this, "Why would Peter state that Cornelius and others, who had already received the Holy Ghost, needed to be water baptized if it was not a part of salvation?:" "IF" as the text of...
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    A continually surrendered life.

    Well, the following is Vines. http://gospelhall.org/bible/bible.php?search=pisteuo&dict=vine&lang=greek Scroll all the way down to entry number 9 and in the middle you will see the words, "A personal surrender to Him." And notice the verse the verse used is John 1:12. "But as many as received...
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    A continually surrendered life.

    Wll Oh please, I don't need you to lecture me on honesty or tell me "I am going through fear." Are you aware of the verse that says, "Perfect love cast out fear?" (1 John 4:18). So tell me, what did I say that was dishonest? And for your information the context of Hebrews 6:4 is not about...
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    A continually surrendered life.

    You don't even have a proper understanding of Hebrews 6:4. "crucifying Christ a second time." Go ahead tell us all here what the writer of Hebrews is getting at by saying those words? What do you think the context is? And btw, you stated that your just the "messenger." Well, your a false...
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    A continually surrendered life.

    There it is folks, the lie out pisteuo's mouth. Who the "heck" are you to judge whether or not a person has saving faith based on you and your teacher (who btw your afraid to name) is expounding that everybody has a false understanding except you two guys? You said you have been a Christian for...
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    A continually surrendered life.

    Well yea, I have some questions? If I'm not mistaken this is the fourth thread you posted on the same subject, why? Secondly, I ask you in one of my other post who was your mentor that was the best so-called theologian in the past 400 years? What is his name? The man that I consider to be my...
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Why is that a subject we are not to discuss? I haven't heard about it. I mean it's taught in the Bible so what's the problem? I do know that pesteuo here has me on ignore (I think) because he has not addressed numerous post to him. It seems to me that since these are discussion forums and one is...
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Your understanding of Romans 8:9 is in error and flawed. In fact, you have the verse "butt" backwards. The Apostle Paul just stated, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit." which means they are already saved. Paul then goes on to say, "IF indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you...
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    Things that need to be believed for salvation

    There is a little more to it than that. The thief admitted/repented that he deserved to be crucified for his crimes this is why Jesus acknowledged that he would be in Paradise with Jesus. Bottom line, Gid/Jesus Christ knows your heart. Also notice the thief did not have to speak in tongues or...
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Well then pisteuo, I'm sure you would not mind providing us with his name? I think you said he teaches at Stanford? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Simple, read Romans chapter 1, that's how. Do you think GOD can handle that? This is an age old question, "What about the heathen" In Him, bluto
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Bingo! I said just about the same thing at my post #39 &41. I also think he believes we do have to work to stay saved, at least that's the impression I get from reading his various threads and posts. In short, he talks like he has made some new discovery that everybody else missed. Even using...
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    Do we accept Christ, or does Christ accept us?

    So, after one is saved we have to work to continue to be saved, is that it pisteuo? And why are not the lost our business? It's every Christians business to reach out to the lost. In fact, if you don't God will hold you accountable. You also made this statement, " "As we through courage and...
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    And on what basis or how do you determine to discuss God's Word with anyone until your sure that God's Word belongs to them/me? So, at John 8:24 and at Romans 10:9 is the Greek word for believe "pisteusete" (John 8:24) the correct rendering? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    Well, on what basis is your understanding of Jesus Christ and your salvation journey is any better than mine or others around here? At Acts 2:37-38, "Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brethren, what shall we do?" Vs38, And...
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    Can we claim Christ as our Lord and savior before we have the Spirit of Christ in us.

    You know I have been reading everything you have been saying and you come off as if your this great teacher and the rest of us are "clueless." And of course saving faith is a relationship with the Person of Jesus Christ based on "BELIEVING" and accepting Him in our hearts for what He did on that...
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    Do we accept Christ, or does Christ accept us?

    Why are you starting other threads on the same subject? If I'm not mistaken this is your third thread? And of course Jesus Christ accepts us. Read Revelation 3:20, "Behold I stand at the door and knock, (The door to your heart) if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him...
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    Things that need to be believed for salvation

    There is a little more details if you read Luke 23:39-44. What point did the thief make that resulted in what Jesus said at vs43? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Things that need to be believed for salvation

    That's pretty good. Please read the account of the thief on the cross with Jesus. What did he say or do that resulted in Jesus Christ telling him, "This day you will be in Paradise?" :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto