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I was specifically referring to Isaiah 44:6. Yes, we know Jesus Christ is our Redeemer and so is the Father. My point is the fact that many people (especially in the cults) think that when they see the word "God" in the Old Testament they automatically say it's God the Father. So, when you see...

Bingo! Also note that at Isaiah 44:6 where it says, "And his Redeemer" this is not referring to any specific person of the Trinity but just to God. God oftentimes speaks in the third person. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

What did you do wansivic, put me on ignore? If you did it shows that your theology won't stand because your unable to face the truth. It's the same as "whistling in the dark hoping the dark will go away." Well, I'm not going away and will continue to confront heretical teachings in whatever form...

Hi andor. Are you posting those verses to say Jesus is Michael the arcangel or that He is not Michael the arcangel? Just asking for clarification. Thanks! IN HIM, bluto

As I already explained to you that Matthew 18:16 has to do with disdiplining a sinning brother and restoring him back to the fold so to speak. And if he does not listen the danger increases in losing the brother. The same principle applies here at 2 Corinthians 13:1. You made a typo and typed 1...

Bumped for wansvic. You know, it's bad enough that you believe that water baptism is required for salvation but now you have advanced to a new level of heretical beliefs that Jesus Christ is God the Father. In short, you are more far gone that I first thought. How about providing the verses that...

Wow, classic Modalism. You got your eyeballs knee deep in heretical theology. If Jesus is God the Father then how come John 1:1 says the Word/Jesus is with the Father? If your with someone you can't at the same time be that someone. Run, don't walk to the nearest exit. IN HIM, bluto

Bumped for wansvic, still no answer, why? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Hey jordan, please check out my post #86 in this thread and tell me what you think? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Just out of curiosity do you attend a church? Is there anyone you can talk to or confide in? And God is not going to "zap" you and take away you being gay. It's like an alcoholic who takes one day at a time and each of those one days at a time he does not drink. This does not mean he's no longer...

Since you said this, "The spiritual re-birth experience, of which water baptism is a part was not available to anyone until after Jesus' resurrection." If this is true (which it's not) how come Jesus Christ said the following AFTER His resurrection? "Go therefore and make disciples of all...

Well one thing is for certain from Isaiah 9:6, it's "NOT" teaching Jesus Christ is God the Father. Are you posting this verse to prove that Jesus Christ is God the Father? Yes or No? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

That would be the mormons that teach that lucifier is the spirit brother of Jesus. Mormon Milton Hunter wrote a book called "Gospel Through the Ages, 1945) and said so on page 15 paragraph 3. I know because I have the book. And you absolutely right when you said, "I think there is a difference...

So what does twisting letters of words have to do with anything? That's like the founder of Christian Science Mary Baker Eddy taking the word "atonement" and saying it means, "at-one-ment." It means nothing just as I wrote what the Apostle Paul said at 2 Timothy 2:17, "But avoid worldly and...

Please, don't let her fool you. Your right, the Church of Christ does teach you must be baptized to be saved and so does the following church. https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/is-baptism-required-for-salvation I believe this is the church wansivic attends or...

What happened now wansvic? Your advocating the teachings of the oneness pentecostal cult with what you wrote above. "Such adherents are generally Oneness Pentecostals who believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are not to be regarded as distinct persons in the Godhead, and that...

Yes, according to wansvic here, your baptism does not count. According to here and her church you "HAVE" to be water baptized in the name of Jesus only. Matthew 28:19 don't count so your not truly saved according to her view. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Here, let me explain what's going on. wansvic here says that a person is saved by putting their faith in Jesus Christ BUT you also HAVE to be water baptized as well to be saved. In other words, if you put your faith in Jesus Christ and are NOT water baptized your not saved. I (and others say)...

I couldn't agree more. Look what Jesus says at Matthew23:37, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, AND YOU WERE UNWILLING." The other thing to...

There you go again, making more excuses and taking verses out of context. 2 Corinthians 13:1 has to do with matters of church discipline. The Apostle Paul is quoting Jesus at Matthew 18:16, "But if he does not listen take one or two more with you, so that "By the mouth of two or three witnesses...