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I cancelled what I was about to post, something urgent just came up.

Your exactly right. I remember many years ago I saw a list of post-tribulationist and I remember that Corrie ten Boom was on the list with many others. I did some research and found this great site which eplains the post-trib view and all the notable people who believe in the pos-tribulation...

You said the following and I quote: "The Church is DEFINATELY in heaven during the gt. Jesus is emphatic about it. My verses prove that hands down." You also admitted that you found evidence of your view in 30 seconds, really? Did you actually read the evidence for yourself? You also gave a...

Look, I can't exegete every single verse for you. I was given you the "gist" of 2 Thess 2:2. He's telling them do not lose your composure to the effect that the "day" singular of the Lord has come. Vs3, he says don't be deceived for the day of the Lord will not come UNTIL the man of sin is...

To be honest I don't know what your talking about here. I don't read "code" so can you please unpack what you saying. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Look, I addresed this already regarding the word, "when" in one of my post to you. The word "when" does not have to be in the text because the literal meaning is, "rest with us "at/Greek "en" the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ." 2 Thess. 1:7. It means the same thing with or without the word...

Just so you know I "mispoke" when I said the purpose of the rapture was to have the marriage supper. I meant to say, "I know purpose of the rapture "IS NOT" for the purpose of the rapture, my apologies. :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

I really hate to do this to you because what I'm about to post is a long read. The article is about, "Who Invened the Pre-Trib Rapture." What I find interesting is during this time, and I'm referring to the so-called, "Age of Enlightenment" "The Age of Reason" etc. During the 18hundreds you have...

No, I was taught right by the pretribers and your misrepresenting what I said. I know the marriage supper of the Lamb "DOES NOT" take place in the air and I also know that the purpose of the rapture is to have the marriage supper. That would be "ridiculous" don't you think? This whole thread as...

You know I remember "DECADES" ago when I was taught the pretrib rapture and believed it that the rapture was "dubed" the secret rapture. I also remember that according to this secret rapture that a Christian may be a pilot flying a plane and he is immediately raptured leaving some of the...

So! Even if you explained a "trillion" times who still have not proven the rapture has occured "BEFORE" these events. It seems your "oblivious" to the words, "end of the age/world." Matthew 13:39, 40. Or "the last trumpet" and how about the "last day at John 6:36-40, John 6:44. And what about in...

Really! 1 John 4:18, "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love." I would think that this verse applies to any day including "the day of the Lord," don't you? And btw, did not God shield Israel...

Let me clarify what your saying. Your saying the rapture is before the events of Matthew 24, is that correct? :eek: IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Ok fine, so according to you Matthew 24 does not at all cover the rapture but the rapture will commence or happen after the events happen from Matthew 24. So my question still stands at vs3, "What will be the sign of your coming, and the end of the world?" You cannot get out of the dilemma you...

The following is what I said to Nehemiah a little while ago. "Look, I am "NOT" discounting what happened to Jerusalem about 40 years later/70AD when the Roman army captured Jerusalem and destroyed the city and the Temple. I'm saying this was a "pre-figure" of what is going to happen at the end...

Now that's rich! You said the following to me: "if you want proof of a Pretribulation Rapture, you'll find it simply by studying the Bible." What do you think I have been doing for the last 57 years, playing jacks? Why aren't you studying the Bible for yorself instead of quoting David Stewart as...

Can you please be more specific as to what Jesus said at the Last Supper that proves the rapture? Btw, the church began (formally)on the day of Pentecost 50 days after the crucifixion of Jesus and remember, He appeared often for about 40 days before the Day of Pentecost. So again, from the Day...

Look, I am "NOT" discounting what happened to Jerusalem about 40 years later/70AD when the Roman army captured Jerusalem and destroyed the city and the Temple. I'm saying this was a "pre-figure" of what is going to happen at the end of the world based on the diciples question at Matthew 24:3. So...

Oh boy, here we go! When I do Bible Study, I really do Bible Study. I "hang" on every word, look up the meaning of words, read the context before and after the verse or verses in question and ask God the Holy Spirit to open the eyes of my heart. Now, I am not saying that some of you don't study...

If as you say Jesus is coming before Satan then please explain Matthew 24:15 where it says, "Therefore when you SEE the Abomination of Desolation spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, (let the reader understand). What are we to understand and what does Jesus say to...