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I didn't say anything about the experience producing the reality. Someone can have the appearance of obedience to God, but without the power of God, it would be missing the whole goal of what God commanded and wouldn't really be obedience. It would be unjust if we became guilty of breaking...

I have never disobeyed the command not to take the hen with the young. If we sin, then we can repent. The same God who gave the law to Moses also sent Jesus in fulfillment of the promise to lead us in obedience to it, so there is no disagreement.

That is contradictory.

In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good and to renounce doing what is ungodly. It notable does not say that we are required to have first done those works in order to earn our salvation as the result or that we will do...

I said: "For example, the Bible says repeatedly in both the OT and the NT that if we love God, then we will keep His commandments, so we are required to be keepers of God’s commandments in order to love Him, but not in order to earn our salvation" I notably did not say: "If you love me, you...

In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts. Do you agree or disagree with this verse?

Salvation is not the vehicle, but rather salvation is an experience and we are required to do works in order to have that experience. In other words, doing works is intrinsically part of what the gift of salvation is, not something that we need to do first I order to earn it as a wage.

In my OP, I said "there are many verses like Hebrews 5:9 support that they require us to be doers of works in the second sense", so I affirmed that it that we are required to be a doer of works. I did not avoid the question, but rather I understood you as saying that if that is required, then...

No kidding.

Ok. Deuteronomy 22:6 “If there happens to be a bird’s nest in front of you along the road, in any tree or on the ground, with young ones or eggs and the hen sitting on the young or on the eggs, you are not to take the hen with the young. Though I have never claimed to be sinless. The fact...

That doesn’t follow again because there can be any number of reasons for keeping God’s law other than in order to earn our salvation. For example, the Bible says repeatedly in both the OT and the NT that if we love God, then we will keep His commandments, so we are required to be keepers of...

Again, I said: "In Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is again the way to believe in what Jesus...

No. Works can be done for any number of reasons other than in order to be enough to earn our salvation as the result, especially because that was never the reason why God commanded His people to do good works.

In Proverbs 3:5-7, we have a choice between whether we are going to lean on our own understanding of right and wrong by doing what is righteous in our own eyes or whether we are going to trust in God with all of our heart to correctly divide between right and wrong through obeying what His...

I realized that it might not be clear, which is why I gave an example. Having the experience of driving a Ferrari intrinsically requires doing the work of driving it in the same way that having the experience of salvation intrinsically requires being a doer of good works in obedience to God's...

For example, by engaging with the idea of there being a distinction between works that are required in order to earn salvation as a wage and works that are required because they are intrinsically part of what the gift of salvation is. The Bible is abundantly clear that our salvation requires us...

Of course, then there is the issue of what exactly it means to believe in the Lord Jesus. Our good works testify about God's goodness, which is why they bring glory to Him (Matthew 5:16), and by testifying God's goodness we are expressing the belief that He is good. So the way that we live...

No, that is not circular reasoning. Circular reason is if the only reason to believe a premise is if you already believe the conclusion. The way to save someone from living in sin is by leading them to refrain from living in sin. That's not circular, but rather that is what it means for God...

We both know that is a lie. If your intention was not to be disruptive or unkind, then you could have asked me to clarify something you didn't understand.

Indeed, our salvation is from sin and sin is the transgression of God's law, so living in obedience to it is the way that God saves us from not living in obedience to it.