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  1. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    And you do dishonor the Lord by not recognizing that He experienced God's wrath on behalf of every believer, satisfying it completely and yet are still believing and teaching that He is going to put His bride through through His wrath. You also demonstrate that you do not know that it is not...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Correct for all of the above False! The dead who haven't believed in Christ will remain dead, with their bodies in the ground decaying and their spirits in Sheol/Hades in torment in flame, like the rich man of Luke 16:19-31. At the end of the thousand years, their spirits will be released from...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Hello de-imerald, When the tribulation begins, the people on the earth will be those who believed in Christ, but were not watching and went back into the world, willfully living according to the sinful nature. Because they will have not been ready, the doors will be shut. There will also be...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    *Correction under "What Happens after the Tribulation Period" "still being in their immortal bodies" should read "Still being in their mortal bodies." Correction under "Tribulation" which should read "Which follows after the dead in Christ and the living are caught up."
  5. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Greetings de-emerald, It is always refreshing when someone wants to truly know about these events and is my good pleasure to explain them, as well as all other Biblical topics. And though it is my policy to include scripture, I will try to refrain per your request: Q: Explain the Rapture and...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    My point is that, the church will not be here when the Day of the Lord is taking place. Listen I don't want to fight with you anymore about this. All have been trying to do is make you understand that God's coming wrath is not appointed for the church and He is therefore going to fulfill His...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    With just the 4th seal and 6th trumpet (a fourth and a third) the fatalities will be over half the earth's population within the first 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. And that is not including the fatalities that will result from trumpets 1, 2 and 3 nor the fatalities from the bowl...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Ever since Adam and Eve disobeyed God, we have had disease, pain and death on the earth. But those plagues that are coming are nothing like Covid, but will be God's direct wrath. Until you understand taht the these plagues are going to affect the entire world with no place to hide, then you will...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Covid-19 which for the vast majority, is just a mild flu if that and you are comparing it to God's plagues of wrath such as demonic beings coming up out of the Abyss to torment the inhabitants with stings like that of a scorpion? You seriously need to take a look at the seals, trumpets and...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    God did not take His church in 70 AD because for one, it was not according to timing. There is a specific time when God is going to call up His church and it wasn't in 70 AD. And two, the gospel needed to continue to be preached and the church needed to continue to be built until this present...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    You are correct, for the word Church is never even mentioned within the narrative of God's wrath. But as I said, since those plagues of wrath will affect every person in the whole world, scripture wouldn't have to say that those plagues will not happen to Christians, because according to you...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    "Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe in Me as well. In My Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    You are not understanding! The plagues of wrath that will be unleashed during that time will be upon the whole world! There will be no place to hide. There will be no escape routes! These plagues that are coming will be unprecedented. Reread those plagues that I listed and answer the question...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    The destruction of the temple in 70 AD was not against Christians, but against unbelieving Israel, because they did not recognize the day of their visitation, which Jesus states as the reason. For those who believe, they have been credited with the Lord's righteousness and have been reconciled...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    So, you think that demonic beings coming up out of the Abyss to torment human beings, four angels and their army of 200 million demonic beings killing a third of mankind, a third of the earth and trees being burned up, etc., are common trials and tribulations? These are the coming plagues of...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    Sorry for the typo. Just to clarify, regarding the imminent return of the Lord, I'm referring to the Lord's appearing to gather the church and taking them back to the Father's house in accordance with John 14:1-3 and 1 Thess.4:16-17, which takes place before God's wrath and before those cosmic...
  17. Ahwatukee

    If YESUAH says that the wicked is gather FIRST, WHY ARE some people looking for a rapture,??? Who does the say was taken in the flood.???

    Hello Jocund, Jesus as the Male Child in Rev.12 is a popular interpretation, but is however false. Jesus does not fit the criteria of being the Male Child. Verses 1 - 6 are all symbolic: The Woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars on her head...
  18. Ahwatukee

    What examples of double fulfillments of prophecy exists in the OT alone?

    Sir, no one else in the history of the world has been a virgin and given birth. And second, that child would not be called Emmanuel, which means God with us. So please, enough with trying to make Isaiah 7:14 a double fulfillment. It was a prophecy about Mary as the virgin and Jesus as Emmanuel...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    My answers with scripture were straightforward. I give you the answers, you ignore them and then ask for more proof. That seems to be the consistent reaction on your part. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come. But understand this: If the homeowner...
  20. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Not I, nor those who understand that God's wrath has already been satisfied by the Lord on our behalf. The temple was destroyed because Israel did not recognize the time of their visitation. Based on that, why would God pour out His wrath on His church who already believes in Him and is...