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I have been telling you for years, brightfame52, that faith is not works and that is why salvation is wholly by God's grace through faith ... just as is stated in Scripture. Do you now (finally) agree that faith is not works??? ... or must we go through another 218+ pages of your denial of...

you can quote Ephesians 5 all the livelong day, brightfame52 ... Matthew 16:18 states that at the time the Lord Jesus Christ said to His disciples that He will build [verb, future tense] His church, He makes it clear that had He not yet built His church. So when you claim "His Love and Death...

Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please...

:rolleyes: ... more error due to your adherence to your erroneous dogma. You are to align your dogma to Scripture and where you are in error, let go of the error. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. .

The truth you turn a blind eye as stated in Romans 4:16 is that it is of faith Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is...

:rolleyes: ... since, according to you, the Lord Jesus Christ loved and died "exclusivley for His Church" ... and we know from Matthew 16:18 that the Lord Jesus Christ stated the church was yet future: Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build...

"Pink was an ardent Calvinist and did not shrink from preaching and teaching the "doctrines of grace" otherwise known as the Five Points of Calvinism." https://www.theopedia.com/arthur-w-pink .

218 pages + in this thread alone and you have yet to Scripturally prove your claim. No one is "Justified ... before they believed" Hebrews 10:14 does not state what you claim. I have warned you time and again, brightfame52, that your habitual ripping verses from the context within which the...

:rolleyes: ... you can run hither and thither to any verse in Scripture you want ... that still does not does not change the fact that the "elect" referred to in Rom 8:33 are those who are born again through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ... those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1) ... those who...

:rolleyes: ... conflating what is written in John 12:24 with what is written in Romans 7:4 is total eisegesis on your part. The Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world ... all descendants of Adam: John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God...

:rolleyes: ... nope ... you're saying that the Lord Jesus Christ did not love and give Himself for all the folks who lived from the time of Adam to the Day of Pentecost, when "His Church" (referred to by Jesus in Matt 16:18 as yet future) was established: Matthew 16: 13 When Jesus came into...

:rolleyes: ... because you have again engaged in lifting a verse from the context within which the Author of Scripture has placed it, brightfame52, you ignore to whom the letter to Colossians is written, you have re-written the script to align with your erroneous dogma ... and you are in error...

:rolleyes: … replacement theology bunk which still does not change the fact that the "elect" referred to in Rom 8:33 are those who are born again through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ... those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1) ... those who walk after the Spirit (Rom 8:4) ... those in whom the...

:rolleyes: ... nope ... the Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world, just as Scripture tells us and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself told His disciples that His church was yet future: Matthew 16: 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do...

the Greek word eklektos ... translated into the English word "elect" ... does not appear in Romans 4:5. In fact, the Greek word eklektos only appears twice in Romans ... once in Romans 8 and once in Romans 16. Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the...

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:rolleyes: ... Isaiah 45:25 does not change the fact that the "elect" referred to in Rom 8:33 are those who are born again through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ... those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1) ... those who walk after the Spirit (Rom 8:4) ... those in whom the Spirit of God dwells...

the Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world ... all descendants of Adam. I believe what the Author of Scripture has written ... just as He has written it ... the Author of Scripture is the One Who tells you the Lord Jesus Christ died for the whole world ... all descendants of Adam: John...

:rolleyes: ... please note the verse speaks of those who are in Christ Jesus ... those who believe through the foolishness of preaching (1 Cor 1:21) ... once a person believes the gospel, he or she is in Christ Jesus. if a person is "ungodly" he or she is not in Christ Jesus. Only the born...

Romans 5:6 does not state the "elect are justified when Christ died for them": Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 5:6 says when we were without strength ... Christ died for the ungodly. Quit manipulating the text. Just read what...