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    Understanding God’s election

    @Pilgrimshope Yes He did, either for the Glory of His Mercy and Grace through Christ or for the Glory of His Justice against sin and wickedness.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I already told you
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    Understanding God’s election

    You just dont understand what all men means biblically, u going by natural instinct
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    Understanding God’s election

    Prayer is only for all men pf the elect whose names have been written in the lambs book of life Rev 13:8;17:8 for they are the only ones God wills to be saved and come into the knowledge of the truth. Some men God deliberately sends them a strong delusion to believe a lie, so they aren't the...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    Justified before the foundation of the world because God hath chosen us [The elect] in Him as early Eph 1:3-4 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Not only are the Elect of God Justified before God before the world began, by His Purpose and...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    And of course Justification from everlasting means without question Justification before faith, and while being ungodly Rom 4:5 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. This scripture proves that God justified some...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    Gods Elect are Justified from everlasting simply as Gods Elect Rom 8:33 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth How long have they been God's Elect or Chosen? Since before the foundation of the World Eph 1:4 4 According as he hath chosen us in him...
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    Understanding God’s election

    @Rufus Then you cant have fellowship with them if you see no fruit . I didnt say you cant not claim them as a believer who is teaching and opposing the True Gospel, just have no fellowship with unfuitful works of darkness Eph 5 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    We cant be sure theyre a son of perdition, thouhg they may act as one, remember saul of tarsus ? Who more sought to destroy the faith than he ? Gal 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. So the most we can say is...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I think it has validity, the double entendre interpretation. Remember Nathaniel ? Jn 1:46-49 46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. 47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed...
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    Understanding God’s election

    @Rufus Nice post, but if I may I would highlight that this shows that it is the quickened, made alive, or regenerate that looks to the Cross/serpent which pictured Christ having been made a curse for them. If you remember Jesus had just instructed nicodemus of the need to be born again of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    It applies to all men by nature whether jew or gentile, whether Old test times or New test times, the indictment for them is outlined in Rom 3:9-19 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;/Spiritually...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    Justified by Eternal Purpose in Christ before creation Thats why it can be said of the elect of God which cant be said of the non elect vessels of wrath 1 Thess 5:9-10 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yes it is true none understands spiritual things of God nor seeks God , the True God. And it goes for all men naturally whether jew or gentile, as Paul concludes both are under the power of sin Rom3:9,19 9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    Justified by Eternal Purpose in Christ before creation This Truth will have many adversaries, but scripture supports the sacred notion. That from everlasting based upon Gods settled and immutable purpose in Christ Eph 3:11, that God would not charge nor punish sins in the persons of His...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Wonder if you are dead from the disease, then what ? The wages of sin is death friend. If something is dead, it needs to be resurrected, made alive b4 it has any activity
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    Understanding God’s election

    @Inquisitor Technically it[salvation] has nothing to do with race, and every ethnic group only has a remnant saved out from them No the actual chosen remnant wasnt hardened, they were saved, and the rest [non elect] were hardened 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Right, and the Abrahamic Covenant was always from the beginning international in scope Gen 12:1-3 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Gods physical covenant with national israel was primarily for them, but it wasnt spiritual, and it wasnt the Abrahamic Covenant which was confirmed to Abe 0ver 400 yrs before the mosaic law national covenant Gal 3:16-18 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to...