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    Understanding God’s election

    Yes as a nation physically, but He has jews that He chose individually in Christ as He did from other nationalities.
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    Yes and its actually a covenant God made with Christ before the foundation and revealed to Abraham his Inerest in it Gal 3 16-18 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say...
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    Jesus should have said Matt 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the half dead bury their dead.
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    Well you cant see it, too bad
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    I wonder what Jesus meant by this Matt 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. We know the one being carried was physically dead, but what about the one doing the burying ? How were they dead ? Surely not physically.
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    Tell us, we are not surely dead ! Rom 5:15 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead/half dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
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    Thats false, it was established in Abraham before circumcision' while he was himself a Gentile God introduced him into covenant here Gen 12:1-3 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee...
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    Understanding God’s election

    @Rufus I disagree, I believe Adam and Eve the women are One, and if the holy seed[Christ] is the seed of the women then the seed of Adam, also Christ according to the flesh was also in the line of adam Luke 3:23-38
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    @cv5 Man isnt surely dead is he ?
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    They believe the lie as eve did from satan, though shalt not surely die ! They believe thou arent surely dead
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    You believe Man isnt dead in sin as scripture says here Eph 2:1,5 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) And yes there were people saved b4 the writing of Eph 2:5 so...
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    Understanding God’s election

    So what he trying to say, Eph 2:5 should read 5 Even when we were half dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) or Rom 5 15 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be half dead, much more the grace of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Most dont believe man is dead spiritually through sin, dead in sin ! Eph 2:5 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
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    Of course it is, its foundational for the setting forth the need of Grace, hence the Gospel of Gods Grace !
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    @Kroogz Okay, since you say that, did the object of faith save you from your sins before you had faith since the merit is in the object of Faith which is Jesus Christ ?
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    Understanding God’s election

    Most dont believe man is dead spiritually through sin, dead in sin ! Eph 2:5 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
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    @Genez Wonder if you are dead from the disease, then what ? The wages of sin is death friend
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    Yes I deny it, if you mean chosen to Salvation, now even though the Nation was chosen/called coporarety to be a nation for the purposeof the Promised Messiah would come through, it only had a small remnant chosen actually for Salvation, hence that's why we have scriptures like Matt 20 16 16 So...
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    Justification from everlasting !

    Because in the Purpose of God Christ was slain for the sins of those whose names had been written in the Lambs Book of Life Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Christ...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Both. They Both were part of the Nation at the time