Yes.... it's amazing what some folks get overwrought about. How about, believe the gospel, accept Jesus, live as much like him as you are able... stop worrying about the Jews, the chosen, the unchosen, end times, yada, yada.....
AHA! @Nehemiah6 says it's ok to get drunk in moderation! I need scripture and verse!
Sorry.... been spending much too much time in the BDF lately... makes you semi-crazy.
Not to put too fine a point on it..... I did NOT call you arrogant and condescending. I said that what you SAID was condescendingly arrogant.
So, yes, it totally IS your fault...
Had enough silly word games? I have. I'm done with you on this topic.
Nope... sounds like a convenient excuse to not evangelize/witness to anyone...
except to the captive audience of a forum, where you can show off the results of your "exhaustive study"... to the adulation of the lesser folks.
Most believers that have studied much less than you, I'm sure, have...
If you are accusing me of those actions, it would be interesting to be shown where I did that. I don't name-call, and I don't belittle anyone's spiritual status... that is between them and God. I don't put people in boxes that they have not chosen for themselves...
so.... if discussing...
No, I have not. I never saw the need, as it was pretty self explanatory.
Let me ask you... what do you think the 3000+ Jews at Pentecost thought/assumed when Peter, in answer to their question, told them to "repent, and be baptized..... " ? Do you think that they considered doing an...
Sorry brother, but I completely disagree with this. Repentance is not a gift... it is a conscious choice that we must make. I CHOOSE to turn away from sin. God does not make me turn away.... I believe after I receive the indwelling Spirit, he helps me STAY turned away... but the decision...
Don't worry about offending me... we've both been around long enough to know that we as believers don't always agree on things. I have no problem with that.
But... you are saying that any human being cannot turn away from a sinful lifestyle without being saved first?
That is akin to saying...
I disagree.... we can certainly make the conscious decision to turn away from sin. Whether we can maintain that direction is certainly helped when we are saved.
There are "good" people all over the world who conciously have turned away from a sinful lifestyle. That does not mean they have...
Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? The scripture is the one that you gave such a snarky response about. The scripture about baptism being compared to Noah being saved through water... try to keep up, seriously...
sorry... I skipped over this one.... Repentance is definitely turning away from a sinful lifestyle.... that's the definition of it. We repent, turn away from our sinful living.... you have to do that as part of the acceptance of salvation.. I don't understand the confusion...
No.
It was not intended to be "not nice".... I'm sorry if you took it that way. I was just saying, if you agree that all the other elements mentioned in scripture about "being saved" are necessary, why is baptism not that important? You have to believe, you have to have faith, you have to...
Yes.... scripture is inconvenient, isn't it?
It's a pretty simple scripture, comparing the baptismal process to the washing away of sins that Noah's family survived in the ark.
What is YOUR understanding of that scripture, since we so obviously MIS understand it?
People keep saying this.... where is the scripture that defines baptism as only an outward expression?
Is that what the eunuch told Philip? I've believed, and now I'm saved, so, what the heck..... I'm going to make an "outward expression" and be baptized in this pond....
If a person...
That's like going to Ireland, and saying "top o' the morning to ya" They don't say that. Our tour guide hinted at possible violence if we did .... :LOL:
I like beer.... it makes me a jolly good fellow.....
T.T. Hall
In Heaven there is no beer
That's why we drink it here
And when we're gone from here
All our friends will be drinking all that beer
F. Yankovic
"Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy"
B. Franklin
The only way...
I am, in the sense that there are several moving parts in the salvation process. It's free, but we also have to accept it..... is that a work?
So do you think I can believe in Jesus, but not have faith, and still be saved? Don't even demons believe?
Or, can I simply have faith in...