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  1. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    I'm going to respond to you one more time, then I'm done... What happened to Job? Did Satan just attack him and persecute him? No... God allowed it to happen. Do you honestly think that God took Paul to the third heaven, showed him things too wondrous to even talk about, then just tossed...
  2. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    oh, good grief. God allowed it to happen. Besides, the disagreement was over whether it was a thorn in the side, or a thorn in the flesh, NOT who gave it to him. Take your "gaslighting" garbage somewhere else. You are not impressing anyone here with your "interweb debating skills" "It's...
  3. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    Argue with scripture all you want.... "7 Because of the extraordinary greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to [b]torment me—to keep me from exalting myself!" 2 Corinthians 12:7 NASB "7...
  4. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    But Paul said God gave him a thorn in the flesh.... not the same thing. You guys are making a huge mountain out of a small molehill... this scripture is nothing more than Paul talking about the revelation he received, and his being transported to the "third heaven", whatever that is. He...
  5. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    there is certainly nothing wrong with observations, and speculation. It's an interesting idea, but I don't find it to be consistent with all the other scriptures about Paul and his personal life. If nothing else, this shows that you read and think about what you have read, which is a good thing.
  6. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    And you are parsing words way too literally. Saying "I" was just a manner of speaking.... If I was to run toward the edge of a cliff and not stop, I would fall off. That doesn't mean that I have done that, or even contemplated that. It is just a manner of speaking. I would not have even...
  7. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    I think you are trying to ascribe some other topic to the topic at hand, in Rom 7. That whole discussion is about the law, and our response to it. He was discussing how we are not under the law, since Jesus saved us. He also was clarifying the role of the law, before Jesus came, and how the...
  8. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    The disease itself would not, but a person's response to that disease would. If you praise God even through the pain/affliction (see 'Job') then you receive God's grace.... if you are afflicted and blame/curse God because of it.... no grace.
  9. hornetguy

    What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

    What translation is that? What I've read so far is talking about "coveting"... which generally is not really talking about sexual lust. It's more of a "lusting" after material things. "8 But sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind;" I don't...
  10. hornetguy

    What is prosperity really?

    I suggest you run away from that behavior immediately.... astral projection is satanic in origin.. I don't know about "lucid dreaming" but I suspect it is of the same source. We were told to not participate in sorcery/witchcraft, etc, because it is of satan.... that stuff scares me.
  11. hornetguy

    Where have you traveled to in America and the World?

    That's the same with us in Texas, talking about Austin... Everything you said is true.... in SOME places. Not all. There are many "experiences" in the US... generally speaking, getting away from the urban metroplexes is a good thing. For the most part, people in smaller towns are very...
  12. hornetguy

    The Gun Thread

    Your hawken is quite a bit heavier than my little cheap Traditions... I shot the Lyman Maxi-Ball out of my .54, and I think, IIRC, 100gr of black powder. It kicked. My lighter load was the Lee R.E.A.L bullet under a lighter charge. It was ok. Round ball loads were powder puff, compared...
  13. hornetguy

    The Gun Thread

    .50 caliber? I used to have a Traditions .54 cal, more modern looking. It was a light rifle that kicked the daylights out of me, when loaded heavy. Light loads were ok.
  14. hornetguy

    What is prosperity really?

    Greed. Quite possibly, or, they are simply charlatans, preying on people (immature believers) that want to believe that God intends that we all be wealthy...
  15. hornetguy

    What is prosperity really?

    If you want good, sound advice on financial issues, I would strongly suggest Dave Ramsey. He's a believer, and has some of the best advice/solutions I've heard. It requires some discipline, but it works. Many churches will sponser his classroom type course called "Financial Peace...
  16. hornetguy

    What is prosperity really?

    "Peace and rain is just A way to say prosperity And buffalo chips is all That means to me" Tom T Hall :cool:
  17. hornetguy

    Will Trump settle with four years?

    They should have picked a more articulate one....
  18. hornetguy

    Where have you traveled to in America and the World?

    So.... like the insurance agency..... you know a thing or two, because you've seen a thing or two.... right?
  19. hornetguy

    Where have you traveled to in America and the World?

    Well, yeah.... like they say, Texas is like a whole other country..... For those that don't get it..... when you meet a man, don't ever ask if he's from Texas.... if he is, he'll let you know. If he's not, you'll just embarrass him.... :ROFL::LOL:(y)(y)
  20. hornetguy

    Where have you traveled to in America and the World?

    can you clarify why the US doesn't attract you? Is it the people? Or, the landscape? Just curious...