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  1. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    yeah .. ok .. more than comfortable judging for myself. see below. Unfortunately, your counsel had no scriptural reasoning to back it up. I gave you the opportunity to add some value to your opinion with scripture but you passed it up. I'll stick to being unwise and listen to those with sound...
  2. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    So you're an anarchist? I admit, it is a bit hard to imagine your current President governing anything. ;) Not sure what you think we are going to co-rule with Christ then, trees?
  3. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Are you are subspecies of human to your President? Why you would think that is beyond me. It was unreasonable of you to assume. If you knew me, you would realise I don't ask questions if I don't want answers. We were having a polite and what I considered an interesting conversation when your...
  4. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I have no idea why the sudden hostility from him? <shrug>
  5. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I have no opinion of you as a person, I don't know you. You gave me your view without scriptural reasoning and it is of this I have an opinion and sought scriptural reasoning. I gave you my scriptural reasoning, I simply asked for a reciprocal courtesy. If I had no interest in why you think as...
  6. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I find your opinion without scriptural reasoning isn't worth much. Would you like to add some value by quoting scripture to explain why you think every human being will have the exact same authority, power and role in heaven?
  7. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    It's hardly made up. The idea of hierarchy and differing roles in heaven is all through the scripture for anyone with eyes to see.
  8. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    I never thought you were being mean. Once again you are reading into things that are not there. I simply think you don't understand the mechanics of how one has faith. The Church is usually pretty good at telling us what we must do but not so great at how we do it. :) Logic tells us saving...
  9. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I think you may have missed the point of his analogy. He was using it to show how not everyone is qualified to go into battle. In the same way, not every believer is qualified to have the level of authority that will be required to rule nations. Just because the Church as His Bride will rule...
  10. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I don't see it as being split up. As I said Christ is Lord of heaven and earth. As His bride we rule with Him in heaven and earth. We are spread out, not split up.
  11. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    It has come at that time (Millennium) but we are ambassadors this side of the Resurrection. On the other side, we are rulers with Christ.
  12. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I had a moment in my life when facing possible imminent death from an exploding car that had caught on fire where I experienced a supernatural peace. If that experience is even a fraction of what peace in heaven is like in a new body? WOW!!! Sign me up for eternity. ;) :D
  13. sawdust

    Loss of salvation???

    Not sure why you have responded this way. I never said hearing the word is tantamount to being given faith. I said faith is the work of the word in a believing soul. If one hears the word but doesn't believe it, they won't have faith. But no-one can have faith apart from the word. Within the...
  14. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    They're not really somewhere else. He is Lord of Heaven and Earth. As the Psalmist said "where can I go". Psalm 139:7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? The Church is destined to rule alongside her Husband and there is to be a New Heavens and Earth. It...
  15. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I'm not of any of the "tribes of the land", that would be Israel. There are no "tribes of the land" in the Church (Gal.3:28). I should have clarified too, those entering the Millennium are those who are still alive at the end of the tribulation, those who "endured till the end". As best as I...
  16. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Ruling the world from Jerusalem (in respect to His humanity). Being God, He will be everywhere always.
  17. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Those saved during the tribulation enter the Millennium. They are not given their resurrection bodies until the end of that period and they are not going to heaven. Their citizenship is of the New Earth. I'm not sure when you think we (the Church) get our new bodies. If at the Second Coming...
  18. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    He used to make me laugh so much! ;)
  19. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    I get what you're saying. As far as I'm concerned the reason we have the Millennium is to show that, even in perfect environment, the source of our trouble comes from within. But the scenario I was suggesting above had all believers in their resurrection bodies prior to the Millennium therefore...
  20. sawdust

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    The problem as I see it is those who don't believe in the Resurrection of the Church prior to the Great Tribulation always conflate that event with the Second Coming and therefore always see them as occurring at the same time. The problem I find with the two events occurring simultaneously is a...