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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    How can Jesus be an example of how we are to live if He lived life as God? God cannot be tempted. How could we do greater things if what He did was as God? If not for the humanity of Christ we could not know God. This is why the Son is both God and man. God's thoughts and ways are beyond our...
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    I'm beginning to get a little tired of repeating myself in this thread. Jesus never stopped being God at anytime nor did He lose, divest Himself or be stripped of all that it is to be God. He denied Himself the right to act as God and instead relied on the power and authority of God the Father...
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    But herein lies the problem. If He acted on the basis of His own power and authority as God, then we can't follow and He cannot be our example.
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    Poll Regarding Paul & Romans 7

    (y) Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Was Moses being God when he parted the Red Sea? Was Elijah being God when he raised the widow's son? Do you honestly think that if the only way a miracle can be performed, is if the person doing the performing has to be God? It has been noted in many posts (and not just by me), that Jesus had...
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Again with the lack of differentiating between being and acting. It's not hard to understand the difference with being something and acting as something. I dare say you are not a stupid person but you sure are acting like it with these stupid questions. ;)
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Don't rely on your memory. My post of #191
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Huh? I don't even get what you are trying to say here. Which is exactly what I have been saying all along.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    You are still not separating His Deity from His humanity in action. He never stops being God and man but during the Incarnation He stops acting as God.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Consider myself as a wife and mother. Do I act as a wife to my children or a mother to my husband? Yet, I never stop being both at any given time.
  11. sawdust

    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Please read what I actually say and stop with your baseless accusations. I said He laid aside His right to act as God, I did NOT say he laid aside His Deity.
  12. sawdust

    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Tell that to Moses and the prophets. They performed miracles on the same basis as Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit. Who do you think those men were empowered with? Who do you think came upon Jesus? John 1:32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove...
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    I appreciate Jesus is the One you say but during the Incarnation He laid aside His right to act as God so He could be as a man in all ways like us yet without sin. He would not have been like us in all ways except for sin if He acted on the basis of His Deity. You need to compare apples with...
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    To live is Christ To Die is Gain

    That the Christian way of life, even at it's most abundant is still a pale reflection of the life to come in glorified eternity. Contentment in any and all circumstances. It is not an opinion, it is the reality of life in Christ. They are not troubled when faced with death.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Because we are not talking about who Christ is, we are talking about what Christ did as a man while on Earth in comparison to Adam pre-fall. It's obvious you don't understand the question therefore I am going to ignore your comments as they are simply not pertinent to the discussion. Have a...
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    My question from the outset has not been about His being but about His function as a man compared to Adam pre-fall.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    The question isn't whether He is fully man or fully God. He is both eternally. During the Incarnation He laid aside His right to function as God and therefore I am asking whether he had an advantage in His humanity in comparison to Adam pre-fall.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    He will be coming in glory when He destroys Satan. We are discussing the Incarnation only.
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Yes He was but on whose orders? Even the Gentile centurion recognised Jesus was under orders. Why is it, those who profess to know Him, cannot recognise it?
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    Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

    Does God need to learn obedience? Jesus did. Hebrews 5:8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered You keep seeing Jesus in His glorified state and thinking that is how he lived during the Incarnation. He was like us in every way except without sin. That means he had to...