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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    It is redeemed elect men, who Jesus died for, that have been given a renewed dominion on this earth. It is ongoing, not yet complete. Your failed theology will never arrive at the truth. You believe in a potential salvation, rather than an actual salvation. We who believe in a Covenant Keeping...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    the Syriac version reads, "for God himself through his own grace tasted death for all"; Christ died, not merely as an example, or barely for the good of men, but as a surety, in their room and stead, and that not for every individual of mankind; for there are some he knows not; for some he...
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    Loss of salvation???

    You do not understand the verses.
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    Loss of salvation???

    Not one of these verses speak about losing salvation. Why did you list them?
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Hello BF, Yes for sure. God has an eternal plan, that is unfolding as we post here. People seem obsessed with resisting the biblical teaching at every turn. We are told in scripture that the natural man....CANNOT welcome or receive the things of God. I know we both believe that. What I puzzle...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The quote from psalm 8 is talking about man having Dominion/ not the atonement. It actual says everyone, not everyman, and vs. 16 defines who among men is in view. SO THAT BY THE GRACE OF GOD HE MIGHT TASTE DEATH FOR EVERYONE: hopos chariti theou huper pantos geusetai (3SAMS) thanatou...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You ignored what was posted. Go ahead and remain ignorant. I repeated it, because you ignored it. I am not here to baby sit you.
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    1,300+ Muslims Raptured During the Hajj Pilgrimage

    1cor10: 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table...
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    Do i have to Keep the Sabbath or was it only for Israel?

    Discussion can be good and edifying. Let me attempt a clarification. The 10 commandments are for all men everywhere. All men have a God given conscience, even after the fall into sin and death. The 10 Commandments existed, and were included in the law of Moses The Mosaic laws were...
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    Do i have to Keep the Sabbath or was it only for Israel?

    pt2; THE VITAL PRINCIPLE OF A DYNAMIC SPIRITUAL LIFE The law (principle) of life - The Holy Spirit is repeatedly described as the Source of spiritual life. Read Ro 8:10, 11; Jn 6:63; 7:38,39. Notice the "sphere" of this life - in Christ Jesus. Do you know and are you experiencing the Holy...
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    Do i have to Keep the Sabbath or was it only for Israel?

    Hello 2TG, I would offer a few comments here; You use the plural, but I think the singular is in view. ie,[the Laws of the Spirit of Life, by these Spiritual Laws] Unlike the 10 commandments, where ten laws are outlined, I think here 1 concept is contrasted. I would say this; We are saved by...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Can you explain the doctrine of election for us? what do you mean by that term?
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Now this is important. God's will always gets done. The thing He purposes does take place, without fail. Isa.46 9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    God's design is perfect. He intends to save all He can justly and wisely save. He has not overlooked anyone. It was never God's plan to save each and every person who was ever born. We can be very thankful God is loving and Kind. God does not have to do what we think He could, or should do. His...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Well, I have not posted anything like that. Where are you getting such an idea? God has Covenanted to save a great multitude of sinners. More than the sand of the sea, or the stars in the heavens. Election secures that great number. Do you agree?
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    You entered the deep end of the pool, but do not know how to swim. It does not make you a bad person. It does mean you have lost any sense of credibility to comment on it, as you cannot grasp what the Confessional statement teaches. Your lack of understanding does not change reality
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Well since you openly confess the confession makes no sense to you that settles the issue then. You do not have the capacity to understand how these things can be. It does not use the word predestined but ordained. It mentions second causes which you ignore, no wonder you cannot understand...