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    Creation reveals the glory and wisdom of God

    Here Nehemiah does not actually prresent the real gospel of the kingdom. Instead as we suspected, he presents a man centered DIY form of it. He presents a Saviour who has done all He can do, but He cannot save unless man does something
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Paul and the other Apostles constantly used the term, elect, and election as they communicated with the churches. God has elected a nation God has elected a servant God has elected individuals God has an elect Covenant people His Church. Paul had no problem using this term to describe the...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    In the OT. most of those who were savingly elected did come from Israel, The Gospel of the kingdom has now gone to the elect children scattered throughout the world.
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    The world is the scope of the mission field. What is most important is....THE EVERYONE BELIEVING 15 that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during, 16 for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    No one changes words, this is a red herring and an attempt to avoid truth.
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    There is no debate at all...There are believers, and unbelievers, sheep and goats, wheat and tares Election refers to the positive action of God electing a multitude of sinners to be saved IN Christ. I think you are looking for the word reprobation; Jer.6:30 Reprobate silver shall men call them...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    It looks like you have no understanding of the biblical doctrine of Union with Christ. To make such a foolish comment about a change of wording is a futile effort to avoid the clear teaching of scripture. Let me help you as you have no idea what is at issue; James Fowler; The historic...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    The Apostle Paul was praising and worshipping God when he writes this open praise of God for such a great Mercy. From other writings we see he was actually humbled by this truth. In Fact He also wrote this; Rom.9 9 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    My friend...it clearly says... hath blessed US. Guilty sinners, were elected , to be In Christ All spiritual blessings describe our inheritance as adopted sons. God did not elect a purpose, but a people. For Whom He did Foreknow...that is us, the elected people rom 8:29
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Lol good one, I missed it totally:oops: I have heard the fatalism card played so often:ROFL:
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    It was a "coming in judgment" upon that generation.....Not the physical return of the last day. Where does the sign say He is??? 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man...." in heaven: " {He is on the throne bringing judgment on those in apostate Jerusalem} and then shall all the...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    It does not say that, because it was decreed before the world was; He chose us IN HIM. Not to be in Him Here 2tim1: 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Wrong my Friend. While it is true God has complete control over salvation, it is also true that He has ordained the means of Grace that He will use to accomplish it. Prayer, preaching, repentance, Faith, Good works, are all part of the means of grace that are employed; 8 But what saith it? The...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    These sections in Lk.and MT. are fulfilling the Covenant Judgments from the Song Of Moses,ie, the Covenant curses of DEUT28-33 Remember, the promises of cursing or blessing??? Blessings Deut28.!-14, curses Deut.28:15-47... Jesus said it was coming upon 1st century Jerusalem....watch;Lk.21: Same...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Isa 24:19-23 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Some attempt to say God does not elect individuals, but thankfully they are mistaken...ibid: (2) Election and eternal purpose or choice, on God's part. Another important fact to be shown is the eternity of election in opposition to the idea that it was in time. The proof on this point is two...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    J.P.Boyce Election an act of God, and not in any sense the result of the choice of the elect. The inquiry here is not an inquiry into the reason for the election, but simply as to the agent. The simple question now is, Does God choose the elect? We are not concerned at this point whether it is...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    So, are you saying unsaved people are chosen to receive "spiritual blessings"? Hint, Those in saving union with Christ= The elected persons. Unsaved people without the Spirit of God are not In Christ Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell...
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    Jesus is describing what happens down the road to those who come to Him. Sinners are urged to go to Jesus while they live. Every sinner that does come will be saved. A multitude are going to come.
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    The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

    The wording is not conditional, but rather descriptive.ie, if so be that, ylt....9 I am the door, through me if any one may come in, he shall be saved, and he shall come in, and go out, and find pasture.