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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Your passage in Proverbs, I believe - refers to evil lies - not to righteous lies, that may be necessary - for example to save the life of people from evil pursuers. God is always against all forms of sin, and we should too. If we aren't - then our relationships aren't right towards God...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    No, they did not understand that He meant that Lazarus was dead. They believed at first, that He meant that Lazarus was just sleeping. John 11:11-14 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 Then...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    I know of a verse that uses "sleep" to mean "death" in the New Testament, too. 1 Cor 15:51-53 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    But Jesus' friends hadn't known what He meant when He said Lazarus was sleeping. Not until He explained to them what He meant: John 11:11-14 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. 12 Then said his...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    A person must not act against their conscience. Many feel it is wrong to lie in all cases. But I see it to be otherwise, in the Bible. Think of how Jesus said Lazarus was sleeping, when really - he was dead. He later explained that He meant that Lazarus was dead. But at first, they...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    But Martha and the others thought Jesus meant that Lazarus was only sleeping. So it was a lie. But for a good, righteous, wholesome purpose. John 11:11-14 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    No, I didn't personally know Corrie Ten Boom. But my mom, when I was a teenager - read the story to my family during lunch times. I remember she felt it was wrong to lie about the whereabouts of the Jews that were hiding in their house. And so she obeyed her conscience, which is what we...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Many don't understand this concept, I think, in the scriptures. There's a huge difference between lying for the sake to do evil - and for the sake of doing what's right and good in a situation. And I have seen numbers of cases in the Bible in which righteous people lied for a good cause...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    No I'm not at all looking for an excuse to lie about anything. I just mean that I can see a need for it in some cases, like when people have evil intentions against us or others - whom I think we should prayerfully try to protect. However if one thinks it is a sin to lie in all cases -...
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    God sometimes hides facts from us until later, sometimes

    Yes, you're right - I see you have a good full understanding on the subject, too! God hides His truths from those who don't sincerely seek Him. And as you say, in the case of Christians - they have the essential knowledge of the way of salvation - and that's the important thing. Then after...
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    God sometimes hides facts from us until later, sometimes

    The Bible says God has the right to hide truths and also to reveal them. It's clear that the scriptures are hidden to an extent, from those who haven't yet accepted the gospel. And that the gospel begins to become clear to a person, as soon as he begins to seek God sincerely, and with deep...
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    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    True, salvation through Jesus must occur before one is capable of doing any works that are satisfactory to God. But one must repent and accept the Lordship of Christ, first, before he can be saved. Luke 14:25-28 25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them...
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    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    I think maybe you and I think much the same on the subject, but just express our views on the subject in somewhat different ways. I agree that no works is able to save anyone before they can get saved. But they at least need to be willing to accept the lordship of Christ in their life, in...
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    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    ! Yet at the same time, God is angry at sin every day, and He doesn't choose to bless the unbelievers of the world to the same degree that He blesses His people. Mark 10:29-30 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or...
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    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    True - ther True - God has greater love for humans than any humans have for humans! Jesus demonstrated this in His being willing to die on the cross for the world's sins!
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    I believe the Bible reveals that there is both a right time to lie and a wrong time to lie. Here are some examples of situations in which it looks right to lie: To save a life or lives. Think of when Rahab lied to protect the 2 spies who came to spy out Jericho. Think of when Elijah...
  17. MyrtleTrees

    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    You're right - you said it well!
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    I THINK IT WAS MIRACULOUS THAT THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL HAD ENOUGH TO EAT IN THE SABBATH YEAR - WITHOUT HAVING PLANTED ANYTHING

    You have stated some interesting symbolisms that I hadn't thought of before - they sound reasonably accurate!
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    God has greater love towards them that serve Him

    Yes, God wants all to be saved, but His blessings are only in full measure given - to those who have sincerely chosen to let God be their Lord and Savior in life. Yes, as you say - God is a JUST God. This means He sees the need to reward those who sincerely serve Him - and also the need to...