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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    John 8:31-32 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. KJV Yes, serving Jesus and being in obedience to Him in daily life - frees people from the power...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    It is always wrong to choose to sin. But in this matter, sincere Christians sincerely interpret the scriptures differently on the subject. It is wrong to sin against one's conscience. So if a Christian errantly assumes something is a sin when it is not - then according to the Bible - he...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    I know that that passage makes it sound like those in the lake of fire and brimstone, will be dead. But it helps to compare the scriptures on the subject. There are scriptures that show that those who will be thrown into hell will be tormented forever. And there is no way to be tormented...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    This life is imperfect. Only in heaven will God's people live in a perfect environment - no sin, troubles or sorrow! Luke 20:34-37 34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    You're right! He is the God of the living! To me, that refers to all saints who have ever lived on earth, as being "alive." Their bodies are dead, but their spirits go to heaven. Matt 22:31-32 31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    You're right! A person needs to be careful not to lie for wrong reasons that God doesn't approve of. But as you say - Rahab was approved of by God for her action of helping to protect the spies. Heb 11:31 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Yes, we agree that Jesus never sinned. As you say, it is a complicated subject and Christians (even sincere ones) differ in their interpretations on this subject or on many other subjects of the Bible. As you say, it's true that those who don't have God in their lives don't have the same...
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    "God loves everyone" - false

    You're right - I agree - well said!
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    "God loves everyone" - false

    You're right! And I liked the verse in Psalms you mentioned and have copied it down for myself.
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    I agree a Christian must not sin against his conscience. If he thinks it is a sin to do something, he shouldn't do it! (James 4:17; Romans 14:23). However, if they are unaware that an action is not sin, it is wise and helpful, at times, to eventually learn more correctly on the subject...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Yes, you're right! I certainly agree! There are Christians who sincerely believe it is wrong to lie in ALL cases. The Bible says that God's people need to obey their consciences (James 4:17; Romans 14:23). So until they learn better - they must do as Corrie Ten Boom did - she refused...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    I think that anything purposely said in a way to prevent some from correctly understanding what you mean, is in affect "a lie." Think of ways one might use parables to hide one's intentions from others, for example. One could devise elaborate parables to disguise what one planned to do...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Rahab's purpose in hiding the men, was not only that of saving her life and the life of her family. If it had been, the Bible would not have portrayed her as "righteous" in her act of having saved the 2 spies' lives. Heb 11:31 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed...
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    God sometimes hides facts from us until later, sometimes

    Yes, the disciples didn't understand important facts about Jesus and the gospel to the extent they did, after the outpouring of God's Spirit on the day of Pentecost - in the book of Acts.
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    When ones misinterpreted Jesus statement about Lazarus "sleeping" - it isn't proper to blame them for not being able to understand what He meant. They sincerely and innocently believed, that He just meant what it sounded like - that Lazarus was just sleeping.
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Rahab's purpose in hiding the men, was not only that of saving her life and the life of her family. If it had been, the Bible would not have portrayed her as "righteous" in her act of having saved the 2 spies' lives. Heb 11:31 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    In Esther's case, it was God's will for her to tell the truth that she was a Jew. We are to be always in close communication with God, as to what to do and not to do in life. In addition to of course, abiding by God's Word and what it says, to the best of our understanding. I can think of...
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    It is not a sin to lie to do what is right - but is a sin when done to do what is wrong

    Yes, the New Testament sometimes uses "sleep" to mean "death." But Jesus' friends didn't understand that He meant death, at first. So they were at first mislead by His speaking of Lazarus as being only "asleep." Jesus knew that, as God knows all things - He knows all people's thoughts...