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  1. MyrtleTrees

    Not wise to take all scriptures literally - better to prayerfully compare them to decide more accurately what the Bible teaches on things

    Of course, we are not to willfully reject any of the scriptures, as God meant them all to be for us to learn from and they are all true. But prayerfully "rightly dividing" (II Timothy 2:15) the scriptures, helps increase likelihood that we interpret the scriptures correctly. . II Timothy...
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    The figurative "spiritual building" spoken of in the New Testament

    The figurative "spiritual building" spoken of in the New Testament We are each - "temples of the Holy Ghost": 1 Cor 6:19 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1 Cor 3:16-17 16 Know ye not that ye are...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    That's all we as humans, can do in interpretation of the scriptures - we just have to prayerfully do our best to understand them all as correctly as is possible. It can often seem puzzling why others aren't able to see the same things we see, when we disagree with them. But it is clear to me...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I am well familiar with all those scripture passages on the subject. It's just that we interpret them differently - though we are both sincere in wanting to understand the scriptures as correctly as is possible. But I think you cling to certain scriptures that highlight the truths you best...
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    "Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together" - Heb. 10:25

    Yes, they were told to keep the traditions they'd been taught, as new believers. That means the NEW traditions - not those of Judaism - but that which the apostles had taught them, under the teachings of the new covenant. Judaism was based on the old covenant. Jesus' death and...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I respect your view, but don't see it that way in scripture. So we just have to pray for one another when it becomes clear we aren't presently able to understand the scriptures the same on a subject.
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    No. Rom 3:23-24 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus KJV Furthermore -there is the need to repent daily of sin, as the Lord's model prayer shows: Matt 6:12 12 And forgive us our...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    We are saved by accepting Jesus as Savior and Lord - and through sincere repentance. That part is short and simple. But just as the people of Israel were saved out of slavery in Egypt - but later - many of them failed to please God and also wished they could return to Egypt - the same thing...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I don't see the word, "sealed' as always necessarily speaking of a Christian who has reached full surrender to God. I see the verse show up in my Bible software in a number of New Testament books. But I see lots of warnings throughout the books against falling away. So the term "sealed" -...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I believe that passage in Hebrews does not mean there is no hope of a Christian who has turned away from Christ, can't return to Him through repentance. The wording of the Bible is sometimes difficult. But it helps to compare verses on a subject to better avoid an incorrect interpretation...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    True - all those who sincerely and wholeheartedly and prayerfully serve God in daily life, and have been tried and shown to be lastingly faithful to God, are guaranteed a home in heaven after this life, as a result of Jesus' death on the cross. But many Christians who are not fully...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I respect your views, and believe we are both equally sincere in our views. So the thing to do when Christians disagree after discussing spiritual topics - is to just pray for one another. So let's do the same. God bless you!
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    Ok here's your passage: Rom 8:18-25 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    Yes, Peter had to agree to do what Jesus said as to His command, "Feed my lambs."
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    He was not perennially helpless, in this event, since he repented afterwards. God always forgives those who are sincerely repentant. 1 John 1:9 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. KJV None of us humans are able...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I respect your view, and know many other sincere Christians believe as you do - that "it is not possible for a true Christian to fall away." But this is not what I see in the scriptures. I do agree there is a point where a Christian - after a time of being "tried" - show themselves to be...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    I respect your views on the subject, but don't think they are quite correct, as to me, in order to remain in the Lord, it requires both our belief in His salvation, and also "works" - meaning our obedience and regular sincere repentance of sins. James 2:20-21 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man...
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    No one helplessly falls away from Christ - it's a choice

    Many sincere Christians believe this. But this isn't what I see in the Bible. It's true that as long as one makes the choice, prayerfully, to remain in Christ - they are safe and are kept from falling away. But there's evidence that not all new converts do remain faithful to Him and...