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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justified before believing and why ?3 Why are all for whom Christ died Justified before God prior to their believing the Gospel ? Yes, Justified solely upon the merits of Christ death alone ! One of the reasons is because of the forgiveness of sins. All for whom He died are forgiven of their...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I can see you cant understand these matters. No one said anything about being godly before they believed.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I havent cut anything off, I just havent taken the time to explain them to you. You already dont believe what I have explained.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I dont believe you do understand Gal 3:13. Those whom Christ died for were by that death redeemed from the curse of the law. They are dead to the law by the Body of Christ Rom 7:4 No condemnation, which equates to Justification. This had nothing to do with their Faith, but everything to do with...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Did you understand what I said ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    That isnt your concern, dont focus on me but on Christ
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    If you condition Justification before God on Faith/Believing whether its your natural faith or God given Faith, you are conditioning Justification before God on what you do rather than what Christ did for you. Thats works
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Then they were Justified before God by Christ becoming a curse for them, faith didnt have anything to do with it. No sense in going to Vs 24 if you dont understand Vs 13
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    If they are justified while ungodly, it has to be before they believed.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Okay that speaks of His death. So everyone Christ died for has been redeemed/saved from the curse of the Law, is that the testimony of that scripture ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification before God isnt conditioned on what God does in us, but what God does for His elect. You condition Justification on what man does. Conditionalism !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    All for whom Christ died, they have been forgiven of all sins, none are even imputed to them by God.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Those Christ died for are Justified before God before they believe and while ungodly. Rom 4:5
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yep, but what does that have to do with you being a conditionalist ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    You cant separate it either So what does it say. According to Gal 3:13 how were they redeemed from the curse of the law ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Sure faith is the Gift of God, thats an off the wall comment !
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Christ's Purpose in dying for the Church ! Eph 5:25-27 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Remission of sins means Justification ! 2 All for whom Christ died, they have been forgiven of all sins, none are even imputed to them by God. 2 Cor 5:19 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Things that accompany Salvation !2 Certain things accompanied Salvation, or Christ. Christ is called God's Salvation here Lk 2:27-30 27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, 28 Then took he him up...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Remission of sins means Justification ! When does those Christ died for have remission of sins before God's Law and Justice ? Yes its before they believe or have Faith. Remission of sins is secured for all whom Christ died by the Blood of Christ, and that alone. Matt 26:28 For this is my blood...