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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Here you go with the race card. Sure the book of hebrews was written to hebrew believers, but the truths about Christ and salvation applied beyond them and was applicable to all believers regardless of race. Jesus isnt the High Priest just for hebrew christians, but for all chrisitans...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed False, The verse shows us who specifically Jesus came to save, the seed of Abraham, His Church, those who belonged to Him Gal 3:29 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. All believers are Abrahams seed, and were heirs to whom the...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats false and heresy. He took on flesh and blood, humanity. Scripture plainly says He took on the same as His elect brother and sisters Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats correct, and He will save the seed of Abraham out of all nations of men Rev 5:9 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Christ took on flesh and blood, do you deny that ? Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; The emphasis is on...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed I know what partakers mean, dont change nothing. I know that all men naturally come out of Adam, Yet all men naturally arent the seed of Abraham. God seperated the seed of Abraham from the rest of mankind Deut 32:8 When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Again, all those scriptures refer to Gods elect !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed You scoff at the doctrine of limited atonement and call it by the name of a man, yet its the Gospel you are scoffing at friend.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Yes I said it, and meant it. There is no Gospel of Gods Grace without preaching the Limited effectual atonement.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Faith from the natural man is of the law Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats correct, Whenever you the word world in scripture in the context of Salvation, like Jn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Jn 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed I know what God says it is, but I am afraid you dont. Justification by Faith is when God given Faith from the New Birth points the blood washed sinner to its object of Justification the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Righteousness has been imputed when one believes. The object of Faith is back at the resurrection of Christ when He arose because of their Justification, after Christ put away their sins.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Its obvious you dont understand this passage, and you are not teachable. Yet Rom 4:25 proves that those Christ died for, when He arose it was because of their Justification Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for[because of] our justification. And...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Were you get this foolishness ? God Justifys mankind ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed False, I have provided plenty of scripture support, you cant see it. Its true that by God given faith, we receive a conscious knowledge of our Justification before God at the cross. Thats what Faith is Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Not true. Rom 5:10 plainly says that believers had been reconciled to God while being enemies, by the death of Gods Son 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. When we were enemies...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats fine for believing to be in the present tense, yet the believing is giving credence to what occurred in the past at the cross, where their Justification took place, which was before they began to believe, or even before they were born for that matter. And no an ungodly person...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Right, so the elect were Justified while ungodly, while an unbeliever by the blood of Christ. And since scripture expressly declares that God was justifying the ungodly, it had to be while they were unbelievers, because once a person believes, they are called believers, saints, godly...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Yes that's right, God justified the ungodly elect by Christs blood, prior to giving them faith so they would believe. Faith embraces the fact that they were Justified by Christs blood at the cross Rom 5:9 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath...