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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification is the result of imputation !2 The death of Christ for all the seed of Abraham, his Spiritual Seed chosen in Christ before the foundation, results in their Legal Justification, as well and it will be followed by Justification experimentally, what Paul means here 1 Cor 6:11 11 And...
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    When did the Church begin?

    Yeah but God had only one particular seed in heart in the beginning. Remember Gen 3:14-15 14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the...
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    When did the Church begin?

    I believe the Church started with Adam and Eve !
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    The Saving results of the Death of Christ !

    Christ did so much more than dying for sin and making Salvation possible or available to all mankind, thats such a false teaching, However what He did do for them He died for, Gods Elect, He absolutely redeemed them unto God, by His Blood observe Rev 5:9 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Thats an unlearned statement.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Do you believe a sinner Christ died for can die in their sins in unbelief ? Yes or No ?
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Except the things you yourself post. You insist that people Christ died for wind up in hell for the very sins He died for, which if true, makes His saving death worthless to save. What makes the difference between saved and lost ? You certainly cant say Christs death. But I can, since...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats exactly what it is saying, just not in the way you suggest. But the verse is saying that the one believing has been born of God. Believing is the effect of having been born of God. The same thing with Jn 1:12-13 Those who believe on the Name of Jesus, do so because they had been...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Justification is the result of imputation ! Justification is the result of imputation, meaning that all for whom Christ died, since their sins had been charged /imputed to Him, or as The Prophet writes Isa 53:6 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed I have always agreed with scripture, but not with you, who conditions salvation on your works, on keeping the law. You not telling me nothing new or what I didnt already know, however you still selling the death of Christ short, teaching that people He died for, and satisfied the...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Which was still the moral law from creation. Where do you think the Law of moses got the sabbath day Law ? Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed You may have read it that way, but you teach against what you read, nowhere does scripture condition salvation/justification on faith, especially the faith of a spiritual dead sinner. Scripture doesnt support your man made views !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Only the seed of Abraham did God have a regard to, the rest were reprobated and would be vessels of wrath fitted for destruction. Jesus only had regard to the seed of Abraham, again Heb 2:16 16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yes, the whole world in 1 Jn 2:2 has Jesus as its propitiation, so therfore its a Justified, saved world, its the world of the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16-17 16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Thats was a prime proof that its only the seed or children of Abraham Jesus came to seek and to save, not all mankind.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Its the same, Christ came and Identified with and to save, the seed of Abraham, not all mankind Heb 2:14-16 14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Oh Yes its a doctrine of God, limited atonement is, but you flip it off and scoff at it calling it a doctrine of a man. See ya at the Judgment !
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed Like I said, ones own faith is natural and it falls under the natural law of creation, therefore its an law obligation, you must do it or else, you are guilty of breaking the whole law, and you must not just keep it, but are obligated to keep all the Law for you r Justification Rom...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed No attempt necessary, your human faith error has backed you up into a corner, human faith is part of the Law of natural creation, not my words, but the creators words Himself Matt 23:23 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    renewed All these refer to the Justified world of the Elect !