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  1. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    My understanding of what the bible says, is that there will be a resurrection of all those who are asleep in Christ(dead past saints) and also those of us who are currently alive changed, and then we will be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air! I was just wondering when you thought...
  2. Clayman

    Obedient Woman

    As the husband it is my responsibility to make all the important decisions, of course my wife tells me what decisions are important :sneaky:
  3. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    With the resurrected saints that come with Him, When does He catch them up to himself? just before He arrives on earth, an hour beforehand, 3 1/2 years before or seven years before?
  4. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Exactly. the rapture is something to look forward to, its a blessing, we are to wait expectantly for His coming, He who testifies to these things says, "Surly I am coming quickly" Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Rev 22:20 or elsewhere, Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our...
  5. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Yes, and we fear not for Jesus delivers us from the wrath to come.
  6. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Understandable, The Day of the Lord is linked to the 7 years of tribulation and the wrath, and also His second coming, and agree the rapture is a separate event, which is the whole reason for the writing of the epistle to the Thessalonians, to me they thought they were in the tribulation period...
  7. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Exactly, there are only two resurrections, but trying to say there are only two timings is really stretching things too far. Jesus partook of the first resurrection that is the resurrection of eternal life, and as you say the two witnesses also take part of the first resurrection again at a...
  8. Clayman

    OH, get over it !

    It's a bit like the theory of evolution, those at the top, well 9 out of 10 scientists actually do believe it's real, and therefore teach wholeheartedly the other worldlings that it's true and factual, and they delude themselves and everyone else. Of course it fits there subconscious agenda to...
  9. Clayman

    To all of you non flat earthers.

    Interesting subject, the flat earth, I do a bit of map work which requires working out direction with compass bearings and distances using maps to pinpoint exact locations, the earth is not flat or I would end up no where near where I'm meant to. Just the other night, I watched a total eclipse...