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  1. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Adam begot sons and daughters, Im not sure how many hundreds of thousands of compounding people there would have been after say 1000yrs.
  2. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Ive developed a new rule of thumb that seems to hold true more often than not, Whatever the majority believe, then its generally in error.
  3. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Translating from one language to another has problems, there is no perfect version, KJV's included, Those who translated this are fallible yet they chose to paraphrase rather than use a literal meaning here, the problem with paraphrasing is that if your view or understanding is biased then it...
  4. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    You tell us the superiority of the Hebrew then you give us a paraphrase into English so we can understand it, do you see the irony of this? The thing I find unsettling is that its not a literal translation but a paraphrase, its like trying to tell me the message bible is closer to Gods Word than...
  5. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    I vote name and shame :censored:
  6. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Oh, As do I. I think I follow what your saying, So am probably pretty like minded I see the descendants of Cain as simply the mechanism that the Sethites confirmed their falling away from God, When you read the traits of Cains descendants they were the craftsmen, the musicians, the builder of...
  7. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Ill reword how I see things for you, I see Cain worshipping at his alter of vegetables as works based religion, he is the head of his family and spreads false religion, Seths line is not works based worship but faith based, but as people intermingle they too adopt work based religion. This motif...
  8. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    To me its just plain sense, that if you call upon and follow God, the last thing you want is for your family to go and mingle with the decedents of Cain. Also we dont need the law to know what is right or wrong we already have it written into our conscience by God, its just that God allows those...
  9. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Lol, I take it your a politician in real life. And if there isnt? How about if I implore that your yes be yes and your no be no. Im just as interested to hear your deflections as your answers now :)
  10. Clayman

    I was told that

    Also to add to the other groups I think hyper dispensationalists teach this, this includes the two gospel grace folk who believe Paul has a different gospel to the Gentiles, Ive noticed some on these forums. But the fact is the law can save no one, for it condemns. The Old Testament saints had...
  11. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Hypothetically from your point of view, If there is no sex in heaven will you still want to go there?
  12. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Oh snap! You should ask anyway, The question is still not answered so im going to have to ask again, I just hope to get an answer. Maybe he will answer someone else.
  13. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Exactly and this is way God tells us. There was Anakim in Canaan in those days when the Hebrews came into the land of Canaan. Its the same thing as in Gen 6 There were giants on the earth in those days and also afterwards When the Sons of Seth married the descendants of Cain. The whole reason...
  14. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    From the responses you already have it seems pretty clear, but I dont mind you can keep asking and we can keep responding. Ill bolden the key words. 1Cor 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor...
  15. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Did you read all the words in what you posted? If you said it was raining when you wrote the post, my understanding would be it was already raining when you wrote it out not afterwards. Same with the bible you have to let the simple meaning of scripture form your understanding, not take your...
  16. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    lol ok, maybe theres not that many six fingered people, I watched a documentary on it a few years ago, theres a lot more with them than I thought there would be though, and they did have to make a couple of six fingered baseball gloves for in the American league what ever that is. But the thing...
  17. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Except theres a spiritual application, that the sons of God are those who have an inheritance from God, and Cain to me rejected God and killed Abel, and rejected his inheritance. Noah was a preacher of righteousness and the world rejected him which means they rejected God. So only Noah was left...
  18. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    Fair point, Even demons believed in God but didnt believe in God, if you know what im saying. By believer I was meaning one who was faithful or a follower of God and His Word.
  19. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    You have criticised the Greek Septuagint as being corrupt and inaccurate, then preceded to supply a totally farcical translation of the Hebrew as being more correct, For example: I bolded the Hebrew for you. בְּנֵ֤י bə-nê the sons הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm of God To divine beings...
  20. Clayman

    Angels can procreate

    There already were giants (big men) on the earth beforehand so the copulation didn't create the giants anyway. Gen 6:4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them.