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Ok then we shall no longer be concerned with salvation then. Keep running the race untill you die. You know death is the finish line after all.

They must not of been OPC then. Im just kidding but only a little.

Jesus says wake up and pray. The hour is at hand.

Why are you so concerned? Do you still question your own salvation? What if I told you that this isn't up to you. That you can't be saved unless god makes a way for you to be saved. You knowing weather your saved or not makes no difference in the end.

Always loved their mystical tradition and teaching on theosis. I believe Eastern orthidox comes closest to traveling the narrow path.

Are you Eastern Orthodox?

I agree 100%. Thank you

My faith is in gods righteousness and sovereignty, not my belief in my own salvation. If you trust god, and believe that god will complete a good work he has begun in you, then you would not be concerned with your own salvation.

Its non of my business if im saved. Being a follower of christ in the hear and now really doesnt have much to do with being convinced of my own salvation. Thats for god to deal with. What you should be more concerned with is if your still running the race towards salvation.

people's view of god is altered by those who claim to know god all the time. Bolth good and bad

Really this is a good answer. But what does believe mean?

Im not saved until I stand before the judge and im pardoned. Weather im saved or not is not my business. God is righteous and I know his decision is whats best.

What does it mean to believe?

Paul also warned not to follow false prophets and teachers. So we are instructed to use discernment concerning others.

Thanks for the apology. I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side or be a hindrance, just so you know in the first and second century they didn't walk down aisles, they walked to their death. That Jesus requirment to follow him is to die. Correct, the only way is through Jesus Christ. What this...

Well if im in the area I'll reach out. Thanks for sharing.

Lol, yah they love to argue over stuff that has nothing to do with salvation and following christ don't they.

Lol ok. This is the heart of the issue im discussing. You bolth belive in the creed but if you told your pastor your considering converting to presbyterianism im sue he would not be in your corner. Different doctrine and different belife. You bolth should be supportive of each other because your...

Thanks. My issue is christian identifies a religon and not one who follows christ. Therefore the meaning behind christian is different then what it ment in the 1st and 2nd century. I personally would not want to be identified as a follower of a religon. As a pentecostal do you consider...

Thank you sir.