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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    What I would like to see is that people in the church are taking the teachings of Jesus Christ serious, and that they have a true passion to want to become his disciple and follow him. What I would also like to see is that the church promotes love and not bigotry. I would like to see that they...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    No, this is not true. You don't need to be perfect to enter into a perfect church. The church just needs to be loving. That's the standard that it should go by. Is it loving? Is it loving towards its enemies? What I'm saying is that there's a lot of hate and bigotry and judgment in the church...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    And what standard are we using to determine if they're doing it right or wrong. And who says that the establishment should be compared to a gym? Who says that this is actually a healthy activity? Explain to me how it's a healthy activity, and explain to me why I would need the establishment and...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    I agree that all men know that you are my disciple.If you love one another but really that's the problem.As I don't believe that the churches are loving , they are bigoted. Also what Make you think that just because its a church that they have their lamp.I would argue the fact that most of the...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    Well, I suppose I'm sharing what I'm sharing because I'm really questioning the Christian faith right now. I'm not saying that all Christians are bad. I'm saying that all churches are bad. Because none of them are unified. So why would I listen to their sermon? And why would I take their beliefs...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    Thank you. I just found this bible verse that seems to touch on an issue that Christianity is struggling with. 1 Timothy 6:4-5 English Standard Version 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    I'm really surprised with all the good answers. Thank you for taking the time to take this into consideration. Although I have grown tired of people running to their Bible to quote things and preach about how we should live. But you don't see any unity. I would like to see that they start coming...
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    How non believers may view Christian's.

    I just have a quick question for everyone to consider. What is it that unifies the Christian faith? What is it that Christians are doing to impact the world in a positive way. I would also include non trinitarians in this discussion, as well as what many may consider to be cult like...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Quick question. Why should someone become Christian if Christians cant agree, and think everyone is going to hell. How many golden tickets are being passed out through the Christian faith? If I tell a baptist im going to become pentecostal, they say no, their ticket is no good, but if I tell a...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The works part is actually faith and belief. I've already went into detail about this. No where in the bible does paul ever mentioned grace without faith or belief being a contributing factor. Paul indicates, that cooperation in bestowing the grace must be met with a cooperation on the part of...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well here it is. I've already shared a lot of information on my view. You can go back through the post and take a look at what I've had to say. There's nothing more that we need to discuss. Thanks for sharing your view. I can see that you're very bias and angry towards Catholics. And that's not...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    God bless.I always enjoy conversations like this. Thank you for being patient and taking the time so I can share.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Don't forget the part after that. He also says through faith, and I've already explained what faith is. Faith requires a response, faith requires action, faith requires cooperation with god's grace, and what he's doing in your life. But faith is even more than that. Because faith also means...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And I am agreeing that salvation is only accomplished through God's grace, but it does not say that grace accomplishes salvation. You still have a choice, and you still need to choose if you're gonna cooperate with god's grace.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Also I wasn't basing everything I sent you off of what you said.I'm basing everything I sent you off of what I said. You say that what I'm sending and what I'm communicating is a little off. Well, I would agree, according to you it would be. That's why I'm sharing.It's called having a dialogue...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And as Paul indicates, the cooperation in bestowing the grace must be met with a cooperation on the part of the person receiving the grace. Otherwise (if no action is taken) it will be rendered vain. Thus in biblical language there is a human cooperation needed both in the giving and in the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I think we agree an a lot. What we disagree on is what God's grace accomplishes for the individual. I personally believe that God's grace is to help but not to achieve salvation. Whereas you believe that God's grace is to achieve salvation. There is no where in the Bible where you can point and...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    2 Peter 1:3-4: “His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence, by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may escape from the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    New Living Translation Dear friends, you always followed my instructions when I was with you. And now that I am away, it is even more important. Work hard to show the results of your salvation, obeying God with deep reverence and fear.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    “Work with anxious concern to achieve your salvation. It is God who, in his good will toward you, begets in you any measure of desire or achievement. In everything you do, act without grumbling or arguing; prove yourselves innocent and straightforward, children of God beyond reproach.” Phil...