Ever wonder Why?….

Nope, I NEVER said evil is good.

I said it is good that God created evil so that He can give us a choice….
Good or Evil… Life or Death… Light or Darkness…

Eve was deceived… she believed evil was good.

Eve was deceived… she believed evil was good.

Where did God say everything I have created is good, except the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That thing is evil. Nowhere. That is simply not in the Bible. You seem to be taking more and more liberty with what scripture actually states. That, is opening the door for even more error and wrong teaching.

So it seems you are saying woe to God. You sure are confused.

I would not normally continue in a thread where the op was so dead set on being right the more they got things wrong, but in this case I persist because the belief that God created evil is egregious to the point it can alter a person's perception and understanding of their Creator.

We have a small taste of that right here in this post by the op who is now stating that the tree God created was evil when the Bible states EVERYTHING God created He called good.

This brings us back to the fact that saying God created evil is calling evil good. Which a blind person can understand to be a lie that may cause people to respond 'then sin is not really my fault. God caused it.'

Does anyone else see the progression in error here? It is becoming more noticeable IMO.

It was GOOD that God created evil because it gave us a CHOICE. God had to give us a CHOICE. God did create evil, God did create Death when He created the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil... God created a CHOICE for us.... LIFE or DEATH.

God HAD to do it. However, God hates evil and will completely destroy it when He accomplishes and finishes what He started...

ALL THAT GOD DOES IS FOR OUR GOOD.... even creating a CHOICE for us. Love MUST have a choice.

*Raises hand* I have a question. Given Adam and Eve's disobedience, with Eve having been deceived
while Adam was not, and also being told that bondage to sin is due to man's fear of death, why did
Adam and Eve not just eat from the Tree of Life? Some say Satan's lie was that they would be like God
in knowing good and evil, but God agreed with that assessment, so that was not Satan's lie. Satan's lie
was they would not surely die, whereas God had said they would if they ate from the totkog&e.
Another question that comes out of this one is, why do people continue to promote this lie,
the lie at the heart of the fall of man and corruption of all creation?

At this point, I believe the op has understood what is being said regarding her belief that God created evil.

She may even begin to think she could be wrong...I don't know.

I am done for now in my replies but that does not mean I am done with the thread.

I just sense something here I prefer not to deal with at the moment.

What makes you think Adam and Eve did not have a choice before choosing to disobey? .

When did I ever say that? Both of those trees were in the garden BEFORE Adam and Eve were created.

All trees were made on the 3rd Day. Adam and Eve were created on the 6th Day.

*Raises hand* I have a question. Given Adam and Eve's disobedience, with Eve having been deceived
while Adam was not, and also being told that bondage to sin is due to man's fear of death, why did
Adam and Eve not just eat from the Tree of Life? Some say Satan's lie was that they would be like God
in knowing good and evil, but God agreed with that assessment, so that was not Satan's lie. Satan's lie
was they would not surely die, whereas God had said they would if they ate from the totkog&e.
Another question that comes out of this one is, why do people continue to promote this lie,
the lie at the heart of the fall of man and corruption of all creation?

…why Jesus Christ had to die… why there was no other way?

Ok. First, put your hand down. I'm pretty sure you did, but just in case.
Second, as you know, God hasn't given us all the answers. So while it's a worthwhile exercise to consider every question, coming to the "ultimate" answer is often impossible. Where I think many err is that they aren't ok with the fact that there are secret things of the Lord and God hasn't made everything apparent. It's ok to say this is my best understanding but scripture isn't definitive on the subject.
This leads to the third point...I don't think most people are lying, but just wrong in their understanding and resistant to change. I have had to ask myself on many occasions if I believe something because that's what I've always believed or because I humbly searched out a matter. Knowing my own propensity to do so, I usually make allowance for others.
Having said all that, I'm not sure why Adam and Eve didn't eat of the Tree of Life. Perhaps the effect of sin on their minds kept this from occurring to them. We do know that God didn't want them to remain in that estate and live forever.

You have said a number of times that God created evil in order to give A&E a choice.

Obviously it seems apparent you miss the fact that they already did have a choice.

Now here you say the trees were part of God's creation before man was created, and we
know that God had proclaimed His creation good, so how can you call the totkog&e evil?

Perhaps it’s time you stop asking me why God put the Tree of the Knowledge
of Good and EVIL in the garden and you ask God why He did it?

I believe Scripture is rather definitive on this subject. Adam and Eve were of the natural world.
The natural man is enmity/hostile to God. Being of the natural world, they had a mind of flesh, and
an uncircumcised heart. The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor
can it do so. While Eve was deceived, Adam was not. Yet both sinned. God knew this would happen.

Further, Eve was deceived by the lie of Satan, which was that they would not die.
That very same lie is promoted to this very day.

I am not sure why you bring up the matter of people lying. Is it because I have called people out for lying in other
threads? I cannot help but find it odd, peculiar, funny even, that people imagine things not in evidence and then
post their imaginings as if they were facts. You can say one thing and someone will claim you said something else,
didn't say what you actually did, or that it can only mean such-and-such. People do lie. And repeatedly. I could give
examples, but to what end? Bearing false witness is a serious matter.I do not think this should be soft peddled. It is
different than simply being wrong in their interpretation of Scripture, being resistant to change, and therefore unteachable.

I brought up lying because you did in the previous post. And if you believe someone is lying and feel compelled to call them on it, that is yours or anyone else's prerogative. What I find happening in many cases is just a misunderstanding of either terminology or doctrine. But calling someone a liar is a serious charge. It means they are deliberately trying to deceive. Someone can earnestly be defending something they believe even if untrue and not be deliberately deceptive. Personally, I share to the point that I feel I'm being heard and then leave the results to God.

I never asked you that question. Why do you pretend I did?

Because that question is what our discussion is boiling down to… and it would absolutely be better if you asked God Himself instead of me.

Why did God put the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and EVIL in the garden?