Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support

Pedophiles and homosexual men who chase little boys should all be labeled as sodomists.

They're both going after the same thing outside of the age issue.

Pedophiles should be another term for homosexuality when the Pedophile chooses boys as their victims.

Doesn't matter. We may not control what comes into the brain but God says do not lust, do not carry unrighteous anger, or do not commit sexual immorality which contains homosexuality.

You may not control what comes into the mind but God says you have a choice with how you act on it.

Don't cut yourself on all that edge over there

Well I already covered this but that's where we disagree because a consensual relationship between two adults has nothing to do with morality
An action is moral if it promotes general well-being or reduces unnecessary suffering
An action is immoral if it causes unnecessary suffering or reduces general well-being

Slavery, racism, the subjugation of women and children...These are godly values?

We can argue the morality of it until doomsday but my argument hasn't changed that laws are based on harm prevention like if you steal for me or damage my property then I can prosecute you in court. If you kill me, you will go to prison
If you violate someone's body without their consent, you go to jail
That's why I don't see any reason tonight allow a same-sex couple to get married because you can't point to a victim
I'm not saying all Christians are like this because most of my Christian friends are super chill but there's definitely a demographic that's basically like this
"My religion says it's wrong to do this"
Me.. okay then don't do that
'My religion also says you can't do this"
Me.. I don't care what your religion says
"STOP PERSECUTING ME"

Are governments a good place to find one's moral tenets and righteousness? Hmmmmmmm???? How about the governments of Nazi Germany, Communist Russia and China, North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela.....etc/etc.....adnauseum. People wholeheartedly gave their support to these governments and the morality they espoused.

The lesson is, governments aren't concerned about morality, they are only concerned with their grip on power.

Speaking of Nazi germany, Hitler literally said he was doing God's work by trying to murder an entire race of people. The Nazi soldiers even wore belt buckles that said God is with us
Before anyone straw man's me I'm not correlating Christianity with Nazis but my point is just because someone says he's doing God's work doesn't mean he's not evil

No. But they are not the blame of Christians but non Christians. It was Christians who corrected these ills.

Where do you get your standard of morality? Are these definitions of moral and immoral behavior yours or someone else? What makes them right compared to Hitler's morality?

But we know it's not that cut and dried, as with the baker and the cake.

Nature of the human heart as to why a Republic should scratch and claw to hang on to the vote of the people. If we lose any support of true morality then the decline will be swift and devastating.

Empathy and well-being.
And if you're going to compare a consensual relationship between two adults to Hitler murdering 6 million people then I don't see any need to even continue this conversation because you're not connected to reality

Yeap, it is the abuse of power or abuse on poorly worded laws that have led to persecution in the past. People have to stop being so gullible and read the words written in blood on the wall. The agenda has been publicly proclaimed. Biden last week said in this Lame Duck session he wants to go after Assault weapons (AR style rifles). This is one of the best weapons we have as civilians if faced against tyrannical evil. But they know this and our enemies overseas knows that we at least on the home front have the biggest well armed population in the world. They know a home invasion would be detrimental.

I've already made my opinion on that I don't have any problem with two same-sex people getting married but ask for the baker incident, they deliberately sold out a Christian Baker just so they could sue him

I'm asking why empathy or well being? Who decides that? Hitler thought their well being was to create a Utopian society. What standard outside of your opinion defines morality?

Everything is a product of mirror neurons
When you see someone experiencing an emotion like jewelry or laughter or sadness, the same neurons fire in your brain so your brain wants to feel the emotion too
I know what it's like to be hurt so I don't want to hurt someone else. This isn't hard
Do you want to live in a world where a crazy dictator can just murder people and get away with it? Neither do I..taahaaah... Moral conundrum solved

Wow, Fox News lying....what are the odds of that happening? (that was sarcasm BTW)

The American Family Association is considered a hate group for many reasons including their stance that no white child should be subjected to the "humiliation of attending a school named for an African American."
That Native American's Should have followed the lead of Pocahontas' lead in accepting the superiority of the newly arrives white settlers
That only Christians should be allowed to emigrate to America.
That the main problem of black people is "they rut like rabbits"
That “Muslim Americans do not have First Amendment rights,”
and many other sad claims.



i keep asking you about this persecution but you never actually say who is being persecuted and how.

facts are facts


How?

How?


you keep talking abotu all this horrible persecution here....you still havn't ointed to any though.


goos because discrimination is a terrible and ugly thing that has no place in our country.


there has been over 250,000 cases of Covid in un-vaccinated military personal with a death rater of about twice that for the general population


This handful of people were deported for committing immigration fraud, they claimed they were fleeing persecution in Iraq but were actually living in Germany https://www.christianitytoday.com/n...ng-iraq-chaldean-christians-asylum-fraud.html


you are supporting the idea that an employer should not have to cover medical treatments they don't agree with so should an employer who is a Jehovah's Witness be allowed to refuse coverage of blood transfusions for their employees?


( Here is the court's decision, you should read it)

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