We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

Wait, is this saying JESUS was crucified on the tree of knowledge? ...if the tree of knowledge of good and evil is "spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt". Did the "great city" become corrupt at some point?


Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Be vigilant. Never take for granted that what anyone says is true. My default is skepticism on this message board until I search something out. That’s really the best approach to the internet in general. If people have a convenient way to plant lies and deception then eventually someone will do it; that’s inevitable. It happens on this message board and it’s a problem on any board, including secular-themed boards.

Weird how you think you qualify for that eternal life without "keep yourselves in the love of God"
...cause you are not with repeated will sin in your life.

disagree.

she was not "possessed by the Devil" -- only Judas in all of the Bible was ever entered by Satan.
i believe Adam knew exactly what had happened when she came to him. He 'listened to the voice of his wife' according to God, but we are not told what she said to him. we can infer it - she spoke to him before he ate.
i believe Adam was not stupid. i believe he had thought about this potential sequence of events, and had a plan.
Adam was not deceived. scripture tells us this clearly, in 1 Timothy 2:14
so Adam did not "listen to the Devil" and when Adam listened to Woman, she was not deceiving him.
what she said to him was not lies, and not deception, and not murder.

think about what you would say if your eyes had just become opened to the fact that you had ingested poison of certain death, and that you were 'naked' i.e. your shame & death was not hidden, but obvious.

Adam ate because he saw what had happened, understood what had happened, and loved his wife more than he loved righteousness.
he joined her in death, leaving his Father in order to cling to her, as one flesh.

No, I said this many times, with great power comes great responsibility. It's a blessing to those who can take great responsibility, it's a curse to those who can't. It's like money, which by and of itself is not evil, but LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

It means the Two Witnesses already happened. The Israel we have today doesn't have anything to do with GOD. JESUS Ended it in 70 A.D.

weird how you think that if i say one thing you think i am ignoring everything else.

it is equally weird that you focus in on 'keep yourself' without recognizing that the very next set of words explains how to do that:
perpetually seeking and loving His mercy

it is not of works.
it is not of will.
it is not of intention.
it is not of desire.

it is of His mercy; by grace through faith.

The inevitable question here (which I already know the answer to) to ask for the spiritual enlighten of anyone is: if Adam and Eve learned good and evil when they are from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil then did God also eat from the same tree?

“They have become like one of Us, knowing good and evil…”

Don’t answer quickly and think about this, even pray about it, before answering.

How are you "praying in the Holy Spirit" ...when He isn't in your corrupted Temple?

lol, "like us" means to not have authority over them telling them what the definitions mean.

Dude, satan twisted wisdom to cause the spiritual tree of knowledge to be separation from GOD.

It says the life of the flesh is in the blood; not the spirit.

Obey-JESUS said:

Righteous spirit intentions through the Reborn spirit is The Way to have Life ..because it is using The Way ...reaching for the Tree of LIFE.

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Wrong... and please stop yelling. The way to life is through faith in Christ Jesus; His atoning death on the cross, His resurrection, and His promise of eternal life to those who believe in Him.

Ignore the context and you can't properly understand the text. One does not come to sound understanding of the biblical text by picking random verses from all over.

Wrong again. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life; we don't "uphold His image" by obeying Him. We obey Him because He is Lord; His image doesn't need us to uphold it. We are made in His image, and that is true whether we believe in Him or not.

Close, but not quite. He is the way to eternal life. He is the truth; that is inherent to His nature. He is the source of all life.

Don't accuse people blindly. If you know someone personally who is guilty of repeated willful sin, then preach at them, not at every Christian.

That is the implication, but it doesn't support your position at all. It is simply saying that Eve is the mother of all (the rest of) humanity

Wrong yet again. Jesus is the seed of the woman; He crushed (past tense for us!) the serpent's head. It's a done deal. We need only walk in that truth.[/QUOTE]

So pretend that Adam (us) didn't ruin the image? The beast image ...the spirit of the beast.

Satan never had any such power, and there is nothing in Scripture to suggest that he did.

You act like you understand Scripture, but it is abundantly clear that you don't.

Again, the Bible says nothing about Adam or us ruining the image of God. You're inventing ideas instead of getting them directly from the text.

umm, so you are suggesting that GOD made an evil tree? what?

My goodness, you are confused.

I don't entertain accusatory assumptions. Read the text and learn what it says.