yeah what the New Testament says is we can’t keep sinning and be saved if we keep sinning knowingly that’s what those scriptures actually say is my ooont .
your ideas , my ideas , Nehemiah’s ideas don’t matter but what it says matters and is meant not to reject but to accept
So yeah I think it relates directly to salvation and ongoing willful sin. I quoted it because I read his post and think we should consider what he said and add what the scripture says to what he said it doesn’t disqualify what he said and what he said doesn’t erase the scripture
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. ( is that saying they are saved ?)
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?”
Hebrews 10:26-29
to keep sinning knowingly so and pretending we aren’t sinning or sin doesn’t matter leads to where it says not to salvation .
again look at this one
“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.”
Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV
that’s not saying “ once you receive the Holy Ghost your saved no matter what is it ? But it’s meant to move us forward away from sin keep us upright
it doesn’t really matter if one person thinks “ once I say I believe I’m already saved no matter what “ and another personal says “ if you sin once after you believe your doomed “ neither is the right answer
the right answer is when you can agree with the scripture no matter what it has to say. It’s design is to give us comfort up front me press us into repentance and righteousness as we walk in the spirit of Christ.
like the law had its own conditions the gospel has its conditions also and it’s not what we think but what Christ said
it’s all true friend not just what sounds easy and conditionless it’s all true and relevant to salvation
but that’s what I think , again , I’m no authority just another Christian here discussing the Bible
It’s not okay for a Christian to ignore thier own sins that’s willful sin . And ours is in danger of being lost like it says there if we accept that it’s going to produce repentance in our life if we reject it it’s going to lead to arguing and pretending some scripture applies and the rest doesn’t
This is true absolutely
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
I agree completely and this warning to those same folks also is completely true d should be accepted
“But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
Ephesians 5:3-7 KJV
i agree with that also both points are true would you agree with all scripture in the New Testament being true and applicable to Christian believers ? Or only what sounds effortless ?
the idea is what’s in between that reconciles them ? Grave is a teacher that leads to repentance and right living that’s how we’re saved by grace through faith
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15 KJV
I think we should accept scriptire and. NOt reject it based on a different place on the same letters to the same church
your ideas , my ideas , Nehemiah’s ideas don’t matter but what it says matters and is meant not to reject but to accept
So yeah I think it relates directly to salvation and ongoing willful sin. I quoted it because I read his post and think we should consider what he said and add what the scripture says to what he said it doesn’t disqualify what he said and what he said doesn’t erase the scripture
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. ( is that saying they are saved ?)
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?”
Hebrews 10:26-29
to keep sinning knowingly so and pretending we aren’t sinning or sin doesn’t matter leads to where it says not to salvation .
again look at this one
“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.”
Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV
that’s not saying “ once you receive the Holy Ghost your saved no matter what is it ? But it’s meant to move us forward away from sin keep us upright
it doesn’t really matter if one person thinks “ once I say I believe I’m already saved no matter what “ and another personal says “ if you sin once after you believe your doomed “ neither is the right answer
the right answer is when you can agree with the scripture no matter what it has to say. It’s design is to give us comfort up front me press us into repentance and righteousness as we walk in the spirit of Christ.
like the law had its own conditions the gospel has its conditions also and it’s not what we think but what Christ said
it’s all true friend not just what sounds easy and conditionless it’s all true and relevant to salvation
but that’s what I think , again , I’m no authority just another Christian here discussing the Bible
It’s not okay for a Christian to ignore thier own sins that’s willful sin . And ours is in danger of being lost like it says there if we accept that it’s going to produce repentance in our life if we reject it it’s going to lead to arguing and pretending some scripture applies and the rest doesn’t
This is true absolutely
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
Ephesians 2:8 KJV
I agree completely and this warning to those same folks also is completely true d should be accepted
“But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
Ephesians 5:3-7 KJV
i agree with that also both points are true would you agree with all scripture in the New Testament being true and applicable to Christian believers ? Or only what sounds effortless ?
the idea is what’s in between that reconciles them ? Grave is a teacher that leads to repentance and right living that’s how we’re saved by grace through faith
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
Titus 2:11-15 KJV
I think we should accept scriptire and. NOt reject it based on a different place on the same letters to the same church
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