As a thief in the night

For Peace and Liberty in the Spirit, i have found it essential, a matter of life and death, to follow His Eternal Commandment:Every word of God is flawless;He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.Do not add to His words,lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30: 5-6

2 corinthians 12 Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.



Revelation 12:1010 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses (torments) them before our God day and night has been hurled down.

There you are brother. satan or satans cheribum torment people day and night and there in both scriptures above they have the same meaning with different interpretation, i am not the liar..



Revelation 12:10-12
The Message
7-12 War broke out in Heaven. Michael and his Angels fought the Dragon. The Dragon and his Angels fought back, but were no match for Michael. They were cleared out of Heaven, not a sign of them left. The great Dragon—ancient Serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, the one who led the whole earth astray—thrown out, and all his Angels thrown out with him, thrown down to earth. Then I heard a strong voice out of Heaven saying,
Salvation and power are established!
Kingdom of our God, authority of his Messiah!
The Accuser of our brothers and sisters thrown out,
who accused them day and night before God.
They defeated him through the blood of the Lamb
and the bold word of their witness.
They weren’t in love with themselves;
they were willing to die for Christ.
So rejoice, O Heavens, and all who live there,
but doom to earth and sea,
For the Devil’s come down on you with both feet;
he’s had a great fall;
He’s wild and raging with anger;
he hasn’t much time and he knows it

Never called you a liar - please read your own post about Paul and there being other writings, which are not confirmed and should not be trusted - Peace.

The scriptures says the return of the lord will come like a thief. which means what ?

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

The scripture says the lord will return like a thief above, which means what exactly,, ? well it means like a thief. so there for the meaning of the theif in the night and the thorn in your side are identical, it also means that the lord is not the theif in the night. because the scriptures says he will return like a thief. if the lord was returning as a thief the above scripture would say the lord will return as a thief and not like a thief. the thorn in the side was also noted as satan and so was the thief noted as the thief. the lord is not the thief,, God bless you to.

My response was to this below :

"The thief in the night is also the thorn in your side, the good part is learnin how to put up with the thorn in your side, and when you do learn this then you will be a good steward, this is why paul was a good steward,, he was able to put up with the thorn in his side and had no problem admiting he had a thorn in his side,, but the only reason he could admit and knew he had a thorn in his side was because he was wise and walked with God. God made him wise. This is the only chance a person has of becoming a good steward and good judge of people. The thorn in your side will allways look to judge somebody else rather than you judge your self. because the thorn in your side does not want to be judged, and will continue to Judge everything but himself. and through you too."


Nothing in blue has anything to do with the Coming of the Lord or the context of what Jesus said about As a Thief in the night.

The first sentrnce says the thief in the night is also the thorn in your side. the thief in the night is also the reference to the coming of the lord. but the the two are not the same. so whats your point, and what are you getting at,, this member i quoted was for @Pilgrimshope who has no right to judge me or others the way he has for as long as he has. are you going to do anything about that ? and look at the way hes spoke to me as a judge in my last thread i started and accused me of being a judge, and all he does his judge himself. so i suggest you should do something about it,, because so far i have been here a few months and there is not one single troll i have been wrong about, who has been banned, even the trolls you had attackin you, i noticed befor you did. @Pilgrimshope is a first class troll who says nice things from the lord but loves to condem people be little people insiult people, judge people incorrectly, so get of my case @CS1. why do you mods allow such trolls to troll as long as they do,, befor you do something about it because i havent been here for days because of the way this troll has upset me.

good post

I think there are many warnings for sure but I don’t think many are looking in the right place to see them. It seems to be what man has always done

like in Noah’s day , in lots day they were all too condemned with their own lists and the wickedness all around them to hear the warnings. Many are looking to the world so , they are going to be deceived by the spirit that’s in the world.

I think that there is already a false Christ in the world a false” Christianity “ a false church that is of the world and not of God. I think they seek this world and it’s rewards and pleasures , it’s security of money and wealth , possessions , earthly reward but they forsake the truth of love and loving others with what we have.

I personally think that just as the Holy Spirit is in the world to be believed and partake of and be filled with through Christ , there’s another spirit claiming to be Christs but isn’t that some partake of

so like the false prophets that claim to be Christs ministers are filled with this spirit , and are preaching deception that actually teaches us to partake of the world , tells us there’s nothing to do , denies repentance from the worldly and obedience to the gospel which Christ teaches

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists;

whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:15-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.

Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:16-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I think satans spirit is on the world and is deceiving a lot of people turning thier hearts and minds away from the truth to falsehoods and lying assurance

I just asked a question or did I go through the thread to see. I am not looking to judge you or seek those who are please just ignore them . If Understand you, you agree to believe the Parable of the thief in the night has to do with the coming of the Lord?

I agree that the parable of the thIef in the night Has to do with the coming of the lord, but what i dont agree with along with many other scriptures the way in which this scripture is miss placed, I cant think as Jesus as coming as the thief in the night, which is just something that is miss repersented. Jesus says the Good sheperd goes in through the front door, not the back door whilst everyone is a sleep. Or another way to look at this scripture is the good sheperd comes in through the front door and warns you of sin befor you commit it,, meaning the good sheperd will identify the tempter and tell is sheep not to listen... befor they sin or start repeating his words,,, where as the thief in the night says a different meaning, which is the lord may catch you if your sinning like a thief in the night will catch someone un aware,, but there lies the problem,, the good sheperd will catch you sinning only to beat the devil,, where as the devil will hope to catch you sinning so he can play God after he tempted a person to sin..

The first sentrnce says the thief in the night is also the thorn in your side. the thief in the night is also the reference to the coming of the lord. but the the two are not the same. so whats your point, and what are you getting at,, this member i quoted was for @Pilgrimshope who has no right to judge me or others the way he has for as long as he has. are you going to do anything about that ? and look at the way hes spoke to me as a judge in my last thread i started and accused me of being a judge, and all he does his judge himself. so i suggest you should do something about it,, because so far i have been here a few months and there is not one single troll i have been wrong about, who has been banned, even the trolls you had attackin you, i noticed befor you did. @Pilgrimshope is a first class troll who says nice things from the lord but loves to condem people be little people insiult people, judge people incorrectly, so get of my case @CS1. why do you mods allow such trolls to troll as long as they do,, befor you do something about it because i havent been here for days because of the way this troll has upset me.

I agree that the parable of the thIef in the night Has to do with the coming of the lord, but what i dont agree with along with many other scriptures the way in which this scripture is miss placed, I cant think as Jesus as coming as the thief in the night, which is just something that is miss repersented. Jesus says the Good sheperd goes in through the front door, not the back door whilst everyone is a sleep. Or another way to look at this scripture is the good sheperd comes in through the front door and warns you of sin befor you commit it,, meaning the good sheperd will identify the tempter and tell is sheep not to listen... befor they sin or start repeating his words,,, where as the thief in the night says a different meaning, which is the lord may catch you if your sinning like a thief in the night will catch someone un aware,, but there lies the problem,, the good sheperd will catch you sinning only to beat the devil,, where as the devil will hope to catch you sinning so he can play God after he tempted a person to sin..

I think this post seems to tell us what God wants us to know. When scripture tells us we won't know when Christ will return that is the meaning of "thief in the night", not that there will be anything evil about the return of Christ.

When Christ came the first time he brought in the kingdom of God. He came to teach us to: MNatt. 3:2 And saying, repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Before, God had established a kingdom of saint with the Hebrews. It had a territory and laws in stone. Now, the kingdom of heaven was for all in any land and the laws were the spirit of the Lord, nothing earthly like cutting flesh. When Christ comes again Christ will establish a new kingdom and it is a time of rejoicing.

The three fall feasts tell us about it and how it will happen. We aren't told the year, it will come like a their in the night comes, but we are told the time in the year it will happen. People were told the time of year Christ would come the first time with the spring feasts, and the Lord will do the same with the fall feasts.

“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

The thief in the night is also the thorn in your side, the good part is learnin how to put up with the thorn in your side, and when you do learn this then you will be a good steward, this is why paul was a good steward,, he was able to put up with the thorn in his side and had no problem admiting he had a thorn in his side,, but the only reason he could admit and knew he had a thorn in his side was because he was wise and walked with God. God made him wise. This is the only chance a person has of becoming a good steward and good judge of people. The thorn in your side will allways look to judge somebody else rather than you judge your self. because the thorn in your side does not want to be judged, and will continue to Judge everything but himself. and through you too.

anyway i will pray for you. God bless you

Here's how I understand the phrase in your OP Title:

--"as a thief IN THE NIGHT" speaks of the manner of the ARRIVAL of "the Day of the Lord" [earthly-located] TIME PERIOD ...of JUDGMENTs unfolding upon the earth (and commencing with SEAL #1 / the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of many MORE [Jesus spoke of] that will follow on from that INITIAL one...); This speaks of the TIME PERIOD (its arrival and unfolding upon the earth over some time);

--"[Behold, I come] AS A THIEF. [period]"... (wherever it is is speaking of Jesus HIMSELF [as in Rev16:15-16], the "IN THE NIGHT" phrase is not added; various passages in the gospels only allude to "if he should" [pertaining to the various "watches" of the night], and of course we know that Jesus said even of Himself, at that time [when it was spoken], "but of that day and hour knoweth [perfect indicative] no man" not even HE HIMSELF, at the time... and referring to [what we now call] His Second Coming to the earth [Rev19] FOR the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom age)


IOW, I see the wording as being purposely distinct... referring to distinct things in the overall chronology of how things will play out. = )

^ All I am saying in that the time period (1Th5:1-3 "IN THE NIGHT" / Matt24:4/Mk13:5) will arrive to unfold upon the earth before He Himself (Matt24:29-31 / Rev16:15-16) will arrive [/return to the earth].

When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe in that day.”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s the same day but [...]

It doesn’t make sense to create all the different days

For one thing, I do not believe the above verse reads the way you've put it; rather, "...and to be admired in/among all those HAVING BELIEVED in that day"...which, as I've put in past posts, refers to a time period in which they will "believe" / "come to faith in Christ," rather than speaking merely of "a singular 24-hr day";

...and where I've pointed out that, wherever the related phrases "IN THAT DAY" and "the Day of the Lord" are used in close proximity / same contexts, they refer to the same time period (rather than "a singular 24-hr day"), as is the case also here in 2Th1 & 2.

"The day of the Lord" being defined as: "a period of time of JUDGMENTs unfolding as well as [after that] a period of time of BLESSINGs unfolding" (It spans from the start of SEAL #1 [involving the "7 yrs" leading up to Christ's "RETURN to the earth] and runs ALSO clear to the END of the MK age/1000 yrs)



It's just one LONG "Day"

(like the "IN THE NIGHT" [/DARK / DARKNESS] aspect OF it... precedes the "SUN of righteousness ARISE" and "reign... GLORIOUSLY" aspect OF it)

Of course, the passages about "day and hour" DO speak of a particular "24-hr day" (the day of His "RETURN" to the earth).



We can agree to disagree here. = )

I would humbly suggest you find some people who you can agree with here so your time spent here is more fruitful.