As a thief in the night

[Pilgrimshope]

im sorry to but this Judging game that we can not Judge each other is of the devil.. we must and we should judge each other, for better or worse for rich and for poorer for sickness and for health and for death untill we part.. for better and for worse and for the promise to love and obey. all tho you may think hey hang on a minute that only applies to marriage, between man and wife,, actually no it doesnt, we are one church one body and of one true God

it’s like this just totally passes over you which is where this began

“For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

…. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:9-13, 17-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬


you should consider what the apostle said there he’s just preaching the gospel

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

am I hearing you correctly that those are 2000 years old and we should instead start judging each other ?

 

[de-emerald]

I appreciate you sister , this dates back to a post when I quoted some scripture to her saying we aren’t supposed to judge one another. She thinks we’re supposed to judge each other , I believe Jesus is everyone’s judge by the gospel .


It’s just a difference in belief between her and I , and I consider it a blessing to be cared for by brothers and sisters such as yourself.

She’s upset because I don’t agree with some of her beliefs about one Christian judging another who might smoke cigarettes or have a tattoo , which o don’t and don’t , but had tried to explain to her that a tattoo or someone who’s addicted to smoking is far less of an issue than when we go around pointing out others sins and not looking at our own sins.

I think it’s a fundamental difference some her think 2000 year old scripture should be forgotten and doesn’t apply anymore , I don’t believe that I believe it’s going to read the same on judgement day when the books are opened.

it’s not an offense to me but a blessing and learning experience test of my patience . And even more of a blessing to have a sister like you stand with me in my defense. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

What makes you think i am a women ?. lol.. if this is how you speak to women then i feal sorry for the women you have met. wow.. but anyway your wrong that i condem smokers infact i get upset for smokers.. such a shame to watch them smoking a devils invention. it breaks my heart to watch smokers smoke theese days.

 

[Blik]

oh ok so now your the humbe brother who is humble one second followed by i need to take your advice, which i would be happy to if you could stop using scripture to condem people with, satan will do the same, satan uses scripture to condem people rather than admit he is wrong, why does he do this, well its because he was once holy, and knows the holy language inside out, and is also very good at taking your thoughts captive. you really do have a thorn in your side.

This is not a lonely hearts site giving advise, it is a Christian site discussing what scripture says. If scripture is repeated or even paraphrased, it is as a discussion of what scripture tells us, if there is advise in that it is from God, not as man advising man. Differences can only be on interpretation, not on the subject of giving advise.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

why did you become so offended in the smoking thread then ?

I never was offended I shared scripture with you to try to point out something to you I thought you might consider .

if someone is a smoker , and we start judging them and condemning them as not acceptable to God , because of their addiction we ourselves doing that are the ones in transgression of the gospel .

Christ is going to judge all of us and does now if we listen to him but if someone’s a smoker and we aren’t , that shouldn’t be something we judge them for.

We should if it comes up mention that it’s bad for thier healtb ( but I assume most already get that part ) but it’s not a reason for us to focus on thier flaws and addictions , and make it about salvation .

instead we should introduce them to the gospel where they will find Gods true judgement for their eternal soul and maybe later they would have the strength in Christ to let go of smoking or whatever I her addictions and sin they might have in thier life.

we should try to focus on what is in the gospel was all my point ever was to you and one of the main points is that Jesus took our judgement of each other away and now he’s the judge and that’s encouraging because he’s the same one who laid down his life for us.

honestly I never meant to start an argument I was trying to help you see something I think is important was my only intent.

I do have flaws , don’t get me wrong but that’s not one of them , and smokers having that particular flaw doesn’t make them any worse off than me with other flaws

 

[de-emerald]

This is not a lonely hearts site giving advise, it is a Christian site discussing what scripture says. If scripture is repeated or even paraphrased, it is as a discussion of what scripture tells us, if there is advise in that it is from God, not as man advising man. Differences can only be on interpretation, not on the subject of giving advise.

Your a 94 year old women ? are you not. what makes you think this is not a lonely hearts forum ? do you go on those forums ?

 

[de-emerald]

I never was offended I shared scripture with you to try to point out something to you I thought you might consider .

if someone is a smoker , and we start judging them and condemning them as not acceptable to God , because of their addiction we ourselves doing that are the ones in transgression of the gospel .

Christ is going to judge all of us and does now if we listen to him but if someone’s a smoker and we aren’t , that shouldn’t be something we judge them for.

We should if it comes up mention that it’s bad for thier healtb ( but I assume most already get that part ) but it’s not a reason for us to focus on thier flaws and addictions , and make it about salvation .

instead we should introduce them to the gospel where they will find Gods true judgement for their eternal soul and maybe later they would have the strength in Christ to let go of smoking or whatever I her addictions and sin they might have in thier life.

we should try to focus on what is in the gospel was all my point ever was to you and one of the main points is that Jesus took our judgement of each other away and now he’s the judge and that’s encouraging because he’s the same one who laid down his life for us.

honestly I never meant to start an argument I was trying to help you see something I think is important was my only intent.

I do have flaws , don’t get me wrong but that’s not one of them , and smokers having that particular flaw doesn’t make them any worse off than me with other flaws

Thats your Judgemental view that i was condeming smokers. and then you go one step further with this wrong view of me and take it to character asasination and play the wonded chirsitian.. because satan told you to...

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What makes you think i am a women ?. lol.. if this is how you speak to women then i feal sorry for the women you have met. wow.. but anyway your wrong that i condem smokers infact i get upset for smokers.. such a shame to watch them smoking a devils invention. it breaks my heart to watch smokers smoke theese days.

well are you male Or female ? I had thought you said something before about being female if you aren’t I apologize for thinking you were .


And ok that’s good if you don’t condemn and judge and focus on other peoples “ sins and addictions.” I agree with that thinking

 

[de-emerald]

well are you male Or female ? I had thought you said something before about being female if you aren’t I apologize for thinking you were .


And ok that’s good if you don’t condemn and judge and focus on other peoples “ sins and addictions.” I agree with that thinking

do you like irritating people ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Thats your Judgemental view that i was condeming smokers. and then you go one step further with this wrong view of me and take it to character asasination and play the wonded chirsitian.. because satan told you to...

ahh ok well I would suggest using the ignore button on me that way you won’t have to be judged by anything I share from scripture. That seems like a good solution to me.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

do you like irritating people ?

by responding to your week long rant and accusations against me you mean ?

 

[de-emerald]

ahh ok well I would suggest using the ignore button on me that way you won’t have to be judged by anything I share from scripture. That seems like a good solution to me.

are you sure your not using scripture to Judge people with after the thorn in your side told you to. ?

 

[de-emerald]

by responding to your week long rant and accusations against me you mean ?

actualy your the one who uses extra sized print in nerly every post you make, which you know fine well is ranting and irritating for people here, as people have asked you to stop that many times,

 

[Pilgrimshope]

are you sure your not using scripture to Judge people with after the thorn in your side told you to. ?

naw I’m in a forum designed to share and discuss scripture. Are you sure you don’t feel Judged by the scripture because your judgement doesn’t line up with it ?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

actualy your the one who uses extra sized print in nerly every post you make, which you know fine well is ranting and irritating for people here, as people have asked you to stop that many times,

oh ok now it’s about large print and not what the scripture says ? Well here’s the same scripture that irritates you in the same print

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Let us not therefore judge one another any more:

but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:10-13‬ ‭

now that it’s not bold print are you any more accepting of what it says ? Or is it still 2000 years old and tells you that you aren’t anyone else’s judge ?

 

[de-emerald]

oh ok now it’s about large print and not what the scripture says ? Well here’s the same scripture that irritates you in the same print

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

there you are and here is your actions, you want to irritate people and your posting scripture to condem people, then your telling people that they have no right to judge you.

then you take it to next level and use scripture to condem people with the Judgement seat. youve allready let your actions slip befor, with purposly irritating people. you have no right to shout theese scriptures of the Judgement seat to brothers in big print and ram them down peoples throats the way that you do, thats the behavior of leagalism, or the preacher who rants and raves with unforgiveness on his heart and condems everyone to hell and has no right to.

then you use your own actions and say that is what other people do and not you, which is highly twisted, and the actions of a thorn in your side.

 

[de-emerald]

naw I’m in a forum designed to share and discuss scripture. Are you sure you don’t feel Judged by the scripture because your judgement doesn’t line up with it ?

ok well i i hereby welcome you take part in this thread if the mods allow it https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-openly-admit-to-being-mean-sometimes.201614/

I would also like to apolagize for being mean to you,, i should have called the thorn in your side a troll and not you.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

there you are and here is your actions, you want to irritate people and your posting scripture to condem people, then your telling people that they have no right to judge you.

then you take it to next level and use scripture to condem people with the Judgement seat. youve allready let your actions slip befor, with purposly irritating people. you have no right to shout theese scriptures of the Judgement seat to brothers in big print and ram them down peoples throats the way that you do, thats the behavior of leagalism, or the preacher who rants and raves with unforgiveness on his heart and condems everyone to hell and has no right to.

then you use your own actions and say that is what other people do and not you, which is highly twisted, and the actions of a thorn in your side.

“you want to irritate people and your posting scripture to condem people, then your telling people that they have no right to judge you.”

if scriptire irritates you , you aren’t in the right place . It would seem learning what scripture actually says Shouldn’t irritate you so much. But again there’s an ignore button so you would never have to see another post of mine that contains scripture. But ….. then you wouldn’t have anyone to argue with


“then you take it to next level and use scripture to condem people with the Judgement seat. youve allready let your actions slip befor, with purposly irritating people. you have no right to shout theese scriptures of the Judgement seat “

again if reading scripture makes you feel that way this isn’t a good forum to come to. You are sort of showing why you shouldnt be judging people if hearing this makes you feel condemned


“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if that condemns you , you should probably stop judging people and harassing people and maybe consider this

“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:37-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’m not sure how that condemns you ? Wait , I think isn’t that the whole point ? The gospel makes you feel condemned because you go around judging people for having a tattoo or smoking cigarettes , but many of them accept scripture and don’t feel condemned and judged because they learn from it and stop judging and condemning knowing that’s what thier actual judge said .

when you hear scripture or maybe someday learn it yourself , it isn’t meant to condemn you it’s meant to bring you to repentance for those convictions it brings to you.

it’s never going to be your judgement over anyone else and you just don’t want to accept that , but I think I’m going to go back to discussing scripture with people here in the Bible discussion forum

so feel free to continue on with your rants about me , but this is a waste of time for me because I’m here to discuss scripture not foolishness

 

[Pilgrimshope]

ok well i i hereby welcome you take part in this thread if the mods allow it https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-openly-admit-to-being-mean-sometimes.201614/

I would also like to apolagize for being mean to you,, i should have called the thorn in your side a troll and not you.

you should stop trying to identify “ thorns “ in other people lol you don’t even understand the verse about Paul’s thorn, and no thanks I’ve tried to participate with you many times it always goes the same way .

but no appology necassary find peace and people you can agree with