As a thief in the night

[pottersclay]

In my studies, thoughts and meditation upon the anti-christ it appeared he will have a answer for everything.
Many christians will believe he is the answer to there prayers as this world will becomes darker and darker to the truth.
The truth is God never promised a universal savior for the last days born of flesh... but sent one from above.
This anti Christ rises to power....our Christ already has been given the power.
This anti christ appeares suddenly....our Lord appears after many warnings.....a number of wake up calls.
The anti christ speaks deceiving....our Lord speaks with the sword of the truth.
The anti christ brings peace for a season....our Lord engages in battle to defend Israel.
Unless God grants revival for the nations for atonement and repentance ...are given and accepted... on our current course of history
Jesus stands at the door and knocks.

Pro choice
Entitlement
Gender transformation
Anti Jewish and christian theology.

These are just a few of the many abominable sins that have reached the ear and eyes of the Almighty

As in the days of noah it appears that the nephilim had a great effect on God's judgement. Question is does that same kind of evil exist today?
Many countries are giving support and funding for research in development of a synthetic, dna altered, human. Who's capability will be far greater than normal flesh born humans.
This research has continued since ww2 and conducted by countries namely china who do not fall under the band of limited sanctioned research laws.

I know it sounds like fairy tales but is true.

 

[Cabrillo]

I know it sounds like fairy tales but is true.

More like a horror movie. Oh wait, I think I saw 2 poorly made ones named A distant thunder an a Thief in the night in the late 70's

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In my studies, thoughts and meditation upon the anti-christ it appeared he will have a answer for everything.
Many christians will believe he is the answer to there prayers as this world will becomes darker and darker to the truth.
The truth is God never promised a universal savior for the last days born of flesh... but sent one from above.
This anti Christ rises to power....our Christ already has been given the power.
This anti christ appeares suddenly....our Lord appears after many warnings.....a number of wake up calls.
The anti christ speaks deceiving....our Lord speaks with the sword of the truth.
The anti christ brings peace for a season....our Lord engages in battle to defend Israel.
Unless God grants revival for the nations for atonement and repentance ...are given and accepted... on our current course of history
Jesus stands at the door and knocks.

Pro choice
Entitlement
Gender transformation
Anti Jewish and christian theology.

These are just a few of the many abominable sins that have reached the ear and eyes of the Almighty

As in the days of noah it appears that the nephilim had a great effect on God's judgement. Question is does that same kind of evil exist today?
Many countries are giving support and funding for research in development of a synthetic, dna altered, human. Who's capability will be far greater than normal flesh born humans.
This research has continued since ww2 and conducted by countries namely china who do not fall under the band of limited sanctioned research laws.

I know it sounds like fairy tales but is true.

good post

I think there are many warnings for sure but I don’t think many are looking in the right place to see them. It seems to be what man has always done

like in Noah’s day , in lots day they were all too condemned with their own lists and the wickedness all around them to hear the warnings. Many are looking to the world so , they are going to be deceived by the spirit that’s in the world.

I think that there is already a false Christ in the world a false” Christianity “ a false church that is of the world and not of God. I think they seek this world and it’s rewards and pleasures , it’s security of money and wealth , possessions , earthly reward but they forsake the truth of love and loving others with what we have.

I personally think that just as the Holy Spirit is in the world to be believed and partake of and be filled with through Christ , there’s another spirit claiming to be Christs but isn’t that some partake of

so like the false prophets that claim to be Christs ministers are filled with this spirit , and are preaching deception that actually teaches us to partake of the world , tells us there’s nothing to do , denies repentance from the worldly and obedience to the gospel which Christ teaches

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists;

whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:15-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.

Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:16-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I think satans spirit is on the world and is deceiving a lot of people turning thier hearts and minds away from the truth to falsehoods and lying assurance

 

[Mofastus]

2 Timothy 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.

Day by day, and with each passing moment, strength I find to meet my trials near...

 

[Pilgrimshope]

2 Timothy 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

2 Timothy 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.

Day by day, and with each passing moment, strength I find to meet my trials near...

“I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:13‬ ‭

“For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:14-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

renewed and made able and strong in the lord day by day !! And we live according to his will now , according to his purposes and promises when the old goes away we are no more slaves to sin , but free children of the most high with Christs strength to overcome living in us . The more we wake to his spirit in us the less our old man has influence and the less we have to struggle against that which is dead and buried ( the sinner) and the more we walk in the new ( Gods child )

 

[Mofastus]

yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you.

As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his Lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:1-10, 12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:25-26‬ ‭

 

[Ahwatukee]

I think you are waiting for seven year periods and angels to pour out bowls looking at revelation as a literal book but this is how we will be saved from the wrath

Most of us from every generation will love our lives and pass away from the world but in the last generation , just before this moment

“And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

The above is speaking about the Lord's return to the earth to end the age when He establishes His Millennial kingdom. It is paramount in understanding that the gathering of the church and the Lord's return to the earth to end the age, as being two separate events. As I continue to proclaim, Jesus already took upon himself God's wrath that every believer deserves, satisfying it completely. Therefore, God's wrath no longer rests upon the believer and therefore we cannot and will not be on the earth during the time that God is pouring out His wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.

It is important to understand the difference between the common trials and tribulation that Jesus said believers would have vs God's direct wrath upon this earth.

“For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭4:15-18‬ ‭

I too appreciate your fellowship and input regarding the word of God.

The above, when the dead are resurrected and the living are changed and caught up, must take place prior to God's wrath, which begins with the opening of the first seal rider on the white horse, which is representing the antichrist.

I think many look at revelation as a literal book of physical events but what we are seeing is an apocalypse that’s showing us a vision not from earths point of view but from heavens point of view

John is seeing a spiritual apocalypse he’s seeing the spiritual events happening on earth not looking from earth seeing physical events

but I do understand your view I have had Amit of discussions with you out it but I just think that you ought to read the literal things on scripture and understand revelation is not something we’re going to see but it’s something John was looking from heaven back into earth seeing because it’s a revelation of things not seen or understood on earth , but revealing meaning of prophecy

Every time each of the seals is opened, a trumpet is sounded and a bowl is poured out, the results are plagues of wrath, with some exceptions. These will be literal, physical plagues of wrath that will come upon the earth in the chronological order they are given. For example:

At the opening of the 4th seal, Death and Hades will be given power to kill a fourth of the earths population by Sword, famine, plagues, and by the beasts of the earth.

When the 5th Trumpet is sounded, a literal angel having the key to the Abyss, will open it, releasing those demonic beings resembling locusts, who are commanded to torment the people of the earth for five months having stings like that of a scorpion.

When the 6th trumpet is sounded, four literal evil angels who have been bound at the Euphrates River, will be released, who in turn will gather their demonic army of 200 million and will literally kill a third of mankind.

These are just three examples. These events will take place in just the way they are described. There is no reason to apply a symbolic or spiritual meaning to these, because they will be events that will be poured out upon the physical inhabitants of the earth. The mark of the beast is literal mark/device and without it, no one will be able to digitally credit or debit their bank accounts (buying and selling).

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be literal, physical plagues of wrath, which is why Jesus "For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved."

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, will take place throughout the entire seven years, with the last 3 1/2 years referred to as the great tribulation and that because of those plagues and the fact that in the middle of the seven years, the antichrist will set up that abomination within the future temple and will proclaim himself to be God. During that time, the beast will be permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and he will be given authority over every tribe and people and language and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.

These are all literal events that will take place just as they are written, my friend. By the time the Lord returns to the earth, the majority of the earth's population will have been decimated by God's wrath and the persecution that comes from the beast. This is why Jesus said that if those days of wrath were allowed to go on any longer, no one would be left alive. But for sake of the elect, that time will not go on any longer than the prophesied time.

 

[DavidTree]

The thief in the night is also the thorn in your side, the good part is learnin how to put up with the thorn in your side, and when you do learn this then you will be a good steward, this is why paul was a good steward,, he was able to put up with the thorn in his side and had no problem admiting he had a thorn in his side,, but the only reason he could admit and knew he had a thorn in his side was because he was wise and walked with God. God made him wise. This is the only chance a person has of becoming a good steward and good judge of people. The thorn in your side will allways look to judge somebody else rather than you judge your self. because the thorn in your side does not want to be judged, and will continue to Judge everything but himself. and through you too.

anyway i will pray for you. God bless you

The Scripture says 'the thorn in the side' are the wicked in this world which we have to endure unto the Coming of the Lord.

and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)—
2 Peter 2

 

[CS1]

The thief in the night is also the thorn in your side, the good part is learnin how to put up with the thorn in your side, and when you do learn this then you will be a good steward, this is why paul was a good steward,, he was able to put up with the thorn in his side and had no problem admiting he had a thorn in his side,, but the only reason he could admit and knew he had a thorn in his side was because he was wise and walked with God. God made him wise. This is the only chance a person has of becoming a good steward and good judge of people. The thorn in your side will allways look to judge somebody else rather than you judge your self. because the thorn in your side does not want to be judged, and will continue to Judge everything but himself. and through you too.

anyway i will pray for you. God bless you

nothing to do with the context of a thief in the night

 

[DavidTree]

The above is speaking about the Lord's return to the earth to end the age when He establishes His Millennial kingdom. It is paramount in understanding that the gathering of the church and the Lord's return to the earth to end the age, as being two separate events. As I continue to proclaim, Jesus already took upon himself God's wrath that every believer deserves, satisfying it completely. Therefore, God's wrath no longer rests upon the believer and therefore we cannot and will not be on the earth during the time that God is pouring out His wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.

It is important to understand the difference between the common trials and tribulation that Jesus said believers would have vs God's direct wrath upon this earth.



I too appreciate your fellowship and input regarding the word of God.

The above, when the dead are resurrected and the living are changed and caught up, must take place prior to God's wrath, which begins with the opening of the first seal rider on the white horse, which is representing the antichrist.



Every time each of the seals is opened, a trumpet is sounded and a bowl is poured out, the results are plagues of wrath, with some exceptions. These will be literal, physical plagues of wrath that will come upon the earth in the chronological order they are given. For example:

At the opening of the 4th seal, Death and Hades will be given power to kill a fourth of the earths population by Sword, famine, plagues, and by the beasts of the earth.

When the 5th Trumpet is sounded, a literal angel having the key to the Abyss, will open it, releasing those demonic beings resembling locusts, who are commanded to torment the people of the earth for five months having stings like that of a scorpion.

When the 6th trumpet is sounded, four literal evil angels who have been bound at the Euphrates River, will be released, who in turn will gather their demonic army of 200 million and will literally kill a third of mankind.

These are just three examples. These events will take place in just the way they are described. There is no reason to apply a symbolic or spiritual meaning to these, because they will be events that will be poured out upon the physical inhabitants of the earth. The mark of the beast is literal mark/device and without it, no one will be able to digitally credit or debit their bank accounts (buying and selling).

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be literal, physical plagues of wrath, which is why Jesus "For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved."

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, will take place throughout the entire seven years, with the last 3 1/2 years referred to as the great tribulation and that because of those plagues and the fact that in the middle of the seven years, the antichrist will set up that abomination within the future temple and will proclaim himself to be God. During that time, the beast will be permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and he will be given authority over every tribe and people and language and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.

These are all literal events that will take place just as they are written, my friend. By the time the Lord returns to the earth, the majority of the earth's population will have been decimated by God's wrath and the persecution that comes from the beast. This is why Jesus said that if those days of wrath were allowed to go on any longer, no one would be left alive. But for sake of the elect, that time will not go on any longer than the prophesied time.

God's Word says One EVENT with two different outcomes - just like His First Coming - One EVENT with Two different outcomes.

Anyone who teaches/preaches a pre-trib rapture lies against Scripture.

Scripture cannot lie.

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Do not add to God's words less you be judged a liar.

 

[DavidTree]

Most important to me about the thief is that it is tied into the Day of the lord that can't happen till the antichrist takes his seat in the temple of God.

And what is tied to the Day of the Lord is His Second Coming and the Resurrection - just as God has said.

Believe in God and His Word = Revelation 20 is when the Resurrection takes place - not before the man of sin.

 

[DavidTree]

In my studies, thoughts and meditation upon the anti-christ it appeared he will have a answer for everything.
Many christians will believe he is the answer to there prayers as this world will becomes darker and darker to the truth.
The truth is God never promised a universal savior for the last days born of flesh... but sent one from above.
This anti Christ rises to power....our Christ already has been given the power.
This anti christ appeares suddenly....our Lord appears after many warnings.....a number of wake up calls.
The anti christ speaks deceiving....our Lord speaks with the sword of the truth.
The anti christ brings peace for a season....our Lord engages in battle to defend Israel.
Unless God grants revival for the nations for atonement and repentance ...are given and accepted... on our current course of history
Jesus stands at the door and knocks.

Pro choice
Entitlement
Gender transformation
Anti Jewish and christian theology.

These are just a few of the many abominable sins that have reached the ear and eyes of the Almighty

As in the days of noah it appears that the nephilim had a great effect on God's judgement. Question is does that same kind of evil exist today?
Many countries are giving support and funding for research in development of a synthetic, dna altered, human. Who's capability will be far greater than normal flesh born humans.
This research has continued since ww2 and conducted by countries namely china who do not fall under the band of limited sanctioned research laws.

I know it sounds like fairy tales but is true.

i AGREE with your accurate assessment of truth.

But don't even say such a thing as "I know it sounds like fairy tales" - NEVER make apologies for the Word of Truth.

Satan is the one who mocks Scripture and wants us to believe in his fairy tales.

 

[pottersclay]

i AGREE with your accurate assessment of truth.

But don't even say such a thing as "I know it sounds like fairy tales" - NEVER make apologies for the Word of Truth.

Satan is the one who mocks Scripture and wants us to believe in his fairy tales.

Thank you saint....will do.😉😉😉

 

[de-emerald]

nothing to do with the context of a thief in the night

The scriptures says the return of the lord will come like a thief. which means what ?

2 Peter 3:10

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

The scripture says the lord will return like a thief above, which means what exactly,, ? well it means like a thief. so there for the meaning of the theif in the night and the thorn in your side are identical, it also means that the lord is not the theif in the night. because the scriptures says he will return like a thief. if the lord was returning as a thief the above scripture would say the lord will return as a thief and not like a thief. the thorn in the side was also noted as satan and so was the thief noted as the thief. the lord is not the thief,, God bless you to.

 

[de-emerald]

The Scripture says 'the thorn in the side' are the wicked in this world which we have to endure unto the Coming of the Lord.

and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)—
2 Peter 2

Somany people have there own understanding, and yours is different to, and it seems that everytime there is a difference of opinion in the scriptures about the devil the devil just gets defended and good brothers doin there best for the lord get blamed for all sorts. and so i will say just go in peace. and i will pray for you too.God bless you.

 

[Evmur]

Most important to me about the thief is that it is tied into the Day of the lord that can't happen till the antichrist takes his seat in the temple of God.

"they" were eating and drinking and marrying etc
the flood came and took "them" all away

But we are not in darkness that it should catch us unawares.

 

[DavidTree]

Somany people have there own understanding, and yours is different to, and it seems that everytime there is a difference of opinion in the scriptures about the devil the devil just gets defended and good brothers doin there best for the lord get blamed for all sorts. and so i will say just go in peace. and i will pray for you too.God bless you.

We all love you Brother and we are just seeking to connect the 'like-minded' Scripture to Scripture.

A thorn creates pain, discomfort and oppression to the area of the body where it resides.

As you can see in 2Peter 2 how Lot who was righteous was oppressed by the unrighteous, who was a thorn in his side.

I cannot find a scripture that shows the Lord coming as a thief is a thorn in our side - but if you find one please share.

I believe that His saying 'He comes like a thief in the night' - is a refresher to us who are His so that we are not carried away with the cares of this life - which the wicked will be consumed by.

Just my thoughts - Peace

 

[de-emerald]

We all love you Brother and we are just seeking to connect the 'like-minded' Scripture to Scripture.

A thorn creates pain, discomfort and oppression to the area of the body where it resides.

As you can see in 2Peter 2 how Lot who was righteous was oppressed by the unrighteous, who was a thorn in his side.

I cannot find a scripture that shows the Lord coming as a thief is a thorn in our side - but if you find one please share.

I believe that His saying 'He comes like a thief in the night' - is a refresher to us who are His so that we are not carried away with the cares of this life - which the wicked will be consumed by.

Just my thoughts - Peace

No problems yup the thorn in the side scripture by Paul, was a tormenting messenger of Satan, and that's what Paul called it. A thief in the night is also a tormenting demon who comes to steal destroy and torment people, there is your scriptures of them being the same,

Paul explained in his writing that the thorn in his side was a tormenting demon sent to correct him,, but i feel his writings here where unfinished. Because in another scripture we are told that Satan has come to torment Christians day and night.

I feel Paul's writings are definitely unfinished, I feel Paul has written note pad writings of demonic attacks and Paul has written those attacks as and when they happened, but not finished interpreting them, like all of a sudden Paul heard a demonic spirit say I have been sent from Satan to torment you and correct you,

to which he wrote down, but perhaps he never wrote down this is what the demonic spirit said to me, but i don't know if its from God. There is an indication that the thorn in his side was a tormenting Paul, so Paul could have been getting tricked and somebody else has translated his writings not realizing that Paul's thoughts at the time could have been tricked

 

[DavidTree]

No problems yup the thorn in the side scripture by Paul, was a tormenting messenger of Satan, and that's what Paul called it. A thief in the night is also a tormenting demon who comes to steal destroy and torment people, there is your scriptures of them being the same,

Paul explained in his writing that the thorn in his side was a tormenting demon sent to correct him,, but i feel his writings here where unfinished. Because in another scripture we are told that Satan has come to torment Christians day and night.

I feel Paul's writings are definitely unfinished, I feel Paul has written note pad writings of demonic attacks and Paul has written those attacks as and when they happened, but not finished interpreting them, like all of a sudden Paul heard a demonic spirit say I have been sent from Satan to torment you and correct you,

to which he wrote down, but perhaps he never wrote down this is what the demonic spirit said to me, but i don't know if its from God. There is an indication that the thorn in his side was a tormenting Paul, so Paul could have been getting tricked and somebody else has translated his writings not realizing that Paul's thoughts at the time could have been tricked

For Peace and Liberty in the Spirit, i have found it essential, a matter of life and death, to follow His Eternal Commandment:

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30: 5-6

But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep sleep in the night;
and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus

Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

'They' versus 'Us' - stay with Us.