The new Woke movement

a lie told with truth is a bigger lie.

But what truth? Whose truth?!

Hi John146, I understand your position, believing in a pre trib rapture. I, however, am of the position that there is no pre trib rapture, and that the saints will be around when the little horn/the Antichrist in alliance with the ten horned beast, wears out the saints (Daniel 7:25), and overcomes them (Revelation 13:7), through the great words he speaks, in support of the beasts new world order. I therefore also see the saints being those who accept the truth and are sealed with Gods seal of truth, while the rest of the world who are not written in the lambs book of life will worship the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4 & 8), and thus accept the lies the man of sin (a.k.a., the Antichrist) will speak, so that they may continue to enjoy the unrighteousness that is in the world (2 Thessalonians 2:9-13).

You have a very rosy view of a very destructive and hateful movement whose main objective is to DESTROY everything (particularly things which are beneficial). The Woke Movement is based and built on lies. Marxist and Communist lies. It is supposedly about social justice and racial justice, but it is all about hatred for whites, and giving blacks a free pass, no matter which crimes have been committed. That is not justice but injustice.

Carnal issues are of the world. Spiritual issues are of God. Those who increase in knowledge, understand that the unjust world is carnal, and thereby will choose spiritual truth over the unjust carnal world.

Ok, so in the sum of things, relating to the Gospel and reaching the world,where do you think fossil stands in importance to God?

When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.

There are many groups in the woke movement throughout the world today who are recognizing injustices. You first describe one faction here in the U.S. representing the whole of the Woke movement, and claim them racist, hateful, who attack those who are like minded. You then move to the global Woke movement on the environment claiming the whole environment movement is built on fear and lies. While I will agree that those who recognize the earth's destruction being destroyed by fossil fuels are to some degree afraid for themselves and their families by those in government and industry who are destroying the world (Revelation 11:18); the majority consensus among scientists worldwide is that global warming is causing ever greater levels of damage to our environment. God will take care of this, however, after the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrists 1,260 world order comes to a close. God will then punish those on high for the destruction they have caused on the earth (Isaiah 24:20-21).

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Isaiah 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Lucy, the world's governments promote what the people want to hear, and then do the opposite. The world's governments since the Kyoto protocol in 1998, have all been saying that they will do this and that in order to mitigate climate warming from fossil fuel use. The only result has been an annual increase in fossil fuel burning by industry. Maybe with the exception of last year due to Covid 19, that shuttered industries temporarily, and caused a temporary clearing of the skies in many cities and industrial areas throughout the world.

When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
After the Lords servants are sealed with Gods truth in their foreheads, the seventh seal is then opened, and there is silence in heaven for the space of about ½ hour (Revelation 8:1), after which seven angels then appear who stand before God and are given seven trumpets (Revelation 8:2).

As the Lords angels provide mankind with true illumination as to what will result in the endeavors mankind contemplates to undertake; when the first angel sounds providing mankind with illumination that his undertakings will result in dire environmental consequences, the world’s ruling parties disregard the angels warning, resulting in 1/3 of earth’s trees and all green grass being burned (Revelation 8:7).

Today due to the world’s leaders and titans of industry disregard of global heating caused by increased burning of fossil fuels, the earth as a result is experiencing increasing forest fires throughout many regions.

As the second angel’s sounding warning is also disregarded by the powers that be; a great mountain burning as with fire is then cast into the sea causing 1/3 of earth’s seas to become blood (Revelation 8:8-9).

Today due to agricultural runoff in conjunction with global heating, algae blooms, often referred to as red tides, are becoming more frequent occurrences throughout the worlds oceans, and are causing the death of increasing levels of marine life.

When the third angels sounding illumination of truth is disregarded, a great star burning as a lamp falls upon 1/3 of earth’s rivers and underground aquifers causing them to become bitter and poisonous (Revelation 8:10-11).

Today due to hydraulic fracturing (often referred to as fracking), ever increasing fresh water resources are being made bitter and poisonous.

The star, called wormwood who falls from heaven burning as a lamp is realized as one of Satan’s angels who provides mankind the illumination for the chemical cocktail to access natural gas from shale beneath earth’s surface.

At the fourth angels disregarded sounding warning, 1/3 of the light from the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and do not shine for 1/3 of the day and night (Revelation 8:12).

Today due to industrial pollution, along with automobile and other atmospheric pollutants, the light from our sun, moon, and stars are considerably less visible than prior to when the industrial revolution began.

All of these plagues are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times.

Once our planet reaches the levels of contamination indicated in Revelation 8, an angel flying through the midst of heaven declares in a loud voice: “Woe, Woe, Woe, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound” (Revelation 8:13).

Yes, truth can be, and is arbitrary to those who hate the light. Calling light darkness, and darkness light. Those who for a thing of naught do injustice to their neighbor; their truth is lucre. These are they in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13 who choose a lie over the truth.

Those whose knowledge increases during the end times is in regards to truth, and not about some unenlightened individuals who believe in carnal perspectives in the world. Something like a gay pride march or agenda I do not recognize as an increase in knowledge in truth, and therefore is not a true awakening/woke movement, even if some claim it to be.

When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
After the Lords servants are sealed with Gods truth in their foreheads, the seventh seal is then opened, and there is silence in heaven for the space of about ½ hour (Revelation 8:1), after which seven angels then appear who stand before God and are given seven trumpets (Revelation 8:2).

As the Lords angels provide mankind with true illumination as to what will result in the endeavors mankind contemplates to undertake; when the first angel sounds providing mankind with illumination that his undertakings will result in dire environmental consequences, the world’s ruling parties disregard the angels warning, resulting in 1/3 of earth’s trees and all green grass being burned (Revelation 8:7).

Today due to the world’s leaders and titans of industry disregard of global heating caused by increased burning of fossil fuels, the earth as a result is experiencing increasing forest fires throughout many regions.

As the second angel’s sounding warning is also disregarded by the powers that be; a great mountain burning as with fire is then cast into the sea causing 1/3 of earth’s seas to become blood (Revelation 8:8-9).

Today due to agricultural runoff in conjunction with global heating, algae blooms, often referred to as red tides, are becoming more frequent occurrences throughout the worlds oceans, and are causing the death of increasing levels of marine life.

When the third angels sounding illumination of truth is disregarded, a great star burning as a lamp falls upon 1/3 of earth’s rivers and underground aquifers causing them to become bitter and poisonous (Revelation 8:10-11).

Today due to hydraulic fracturing (often referred to as fracking), ever increasing fresh water resources are being made bitter and poisonous.

The star, called wormwood who falls from heaven burning as a lamp is realized as one of Satan’s angels who provides mankind the illumination for the chemical cocktail to access natural gas from shale beneath earth’s surface.

At the fourth angels disregarded sounding warning, 1/3 of the light from the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and do not shine for 1/3 of the day and night (Revelation 8:12).

Today due to industrial pollution, along with automobile and other atmospheric pollutants, the light from our sun, moon, and stars are considerably less visible than prior to when the industrial revolution began.

All of these plagues are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times.

Once our planet reaches the levels of contamination indicated in Revelation 8, an angel flying through the midst of heaven declares in a loud voice: “Woe, Woe, Woe, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound” (Revelation 8:13).

Seems to me that it’s the angels that hurt the earth not climate change.


2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

In Revelation 7:1 we see the four angels of God holding back the winds, to not blow (excessively) on the earth, nor the sea. The four angels are holding back the four winds as commanded until their fellow brethren servants of God are sealed with Gods seal of truth.
You are, however, in a way correct. The Lord could have kept His four angels to continue refraining the winds from blowing excessively and damaging the earth and seas, but instead, the Lord decided enough was enough, and that once His servants on earth were sealed with His truth, the restraining of extreme wind on earth and sea, due to mankind's love for the things his hands produce through fossil fuel burning industries, would then no longer be restrained.

You added a word that is not in the text; that's called eisegesis and is a great way to lead yourself into delusion.

Also, the text does not even hint that the issue is the burning of fossil fuels. That is your (mis)interpretation, and is not valid. Volcanic eruptions pump significant amounts of greenhouse gases as well, but they are not caused by humans. It appears that you have embraced the Al Gore (per)version of science and now you're trying to force-fit your worldview into Scripture.

The Lord attributes in Revelation 9:20, the plagues in Revelation 8 & 9 to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times. The vast majority of things made today are made in fossil fuel burning industries. In addition to the destruction of the earth in Revelation 8 from excessive fossil fuel burning, Revelation 9:21 indicate the unjust immoral acts resulting from mankind's love for material goods, a.k.a., materialism that is idolatry.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.