The new Woke movement

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a lie told with truth is a bigger lie.
but it was thoroughly funny and enjoyable to read. He/she reveals a bit more of him/herself and their motives with every post. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is here preaching her socialist and environmental gospel. :D
 

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But what truth? Whose truth?!
Yes, truth can be, and is arbitrary to those who hate the light. Calling light darkness, and darkness light. Those who for a thing of naught do injustice to their neighbor; their truth is lucre. These are they in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13 who choose a lie over the truth.
 

John146

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Hi John146, I understand your position, believing in a pre trib rapture. I, however, am of the position that there is no pre trib rapture, and that the saints will be around when the little horn/the Antichrist in alliance with the ten horned beast, wears out the saints (Daniel 7:25), and overcomes them (Revelation 13:7), through the great words he speaks, in support of the beasts new world order. I therefore also see the saints being those who accept the truth and are sealed with Gods seal of truth, while the rest of the world who are not written in the lambs book of life will worship the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4 & 8), and thus accept the lies the man of sin (a.k.a., the Antichrist) will speak, so that they may continue to enjoy the unrighteousness that is in the world (2 Thessalonians 2:9-13).
I‘m already sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. 😀
 

Pilgrimshope

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You have a very rosy view of a very destructive and hateful movement whose main objective is to DESTROY everything (particularly things which are beneficial). The Woke Movement is based and built on lies. Marxist and Communist lies. It is supposedly about social justice and racial justice, but it is all about hatred for whites, and giving blacks a free pass, no matter which crimes have been committed. That is not justice but injustice.
Amen they first create thoer own truth and standard opposed to Gods already established truth and standard and then claim to be fighting the oppressor who turns out to be those who believe Gods word about it matters

it’s the worlds corrupted law and the kingdom

“And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:23-24, 26‬ ‭

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭
 

Pilgrimshope

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Carnal issues are of the world. Spiritual issues are of God. Those who increase in knowledge, understand that the unjust world is carnal, and thereby will choose spiritual truth over the unjust carnal world.
what does that have to do with Gods established word of truth ?

you can reference spiritual thkngs but in truth whether it’s spirit

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭

truth

“For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:8, 14, 17‬ ‭

no understanding or great revelation we can achieve will ever change Gods word from what it has always been morality will never change right and wrong never changes from the beginning to eternity
 

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Ok, so in the sum of things, relating to the Gospel and reaching the world,where do you think fossil stands in importance to God?
When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
After the Lords servants are sealed with Gods truth in their foreheads, the seventh seal is then opened, and there is silence in heaven for the space of about ½ hour (Revelation 8:1), after which seven angels then appear who stand before God and are given seven trumpets (Revelation 8:2).

As the Lords angels provide mankind with true illumination as to what will result in the endeavors mankind contemplates to undertake; when the first angel sounds providing mankind with illumination that his undertakings will result in dire environmental consequences, the world’s ruling parties disregard the angels warning, resulting in 1/3 of earth’s trees and all green grass being burned (Revelation 8:7).

Today due to the world’s leaders and titans of industry disregard of global heating caused by increased burning of fossil fuels, the earth as a result is experiencing increasing forest fires throughout many regions.

As the second angel’s sounding warning is also disregarded by the powers that be; a great mountain burning as with fire is then cast into the sea causing 1/3 of earth’s seas to become blood (Revelation 8:8-9).

Today due to agricultural runoff in conjunction with global heating, algae blooms, often referred to as red tides, are becoming more frequent occurrences throughout the worlds oceans, and are causing the death of increasing levels of marine life.

When the third angels sounding illumination of truth is disregarded, a great star burning as a lamp falls upon 1/3 of earth’s rivers and underground aquifers causing them to become bitter and poisonous (Revelation 8:10-11).

Today due to hydraulic fracturing (often referred to as fracking), ever increasing fresh water resources are being made bitter and poisonous.

The star, called wormwood who falls from heaven burning as a lamp is realized as one of Satan’s angels who provides mankind the illumination for the chemical cocktail to access natural gas from shale beneath earth’s surface.

At the fourth angels disregarded sounding warning, 1/3 of the light from the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and do not shine for 1/3 of the day and night (Revelation 8:12).

Today due to industrial pollution, along with automobile and other atmospheric pollutants, the light from our sun, moon, and stars are considerably less visible than prior to when the industrial revolution began.

All of these plagues are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times.

Once our planet reaches the levels of contamination indicated in Revelation 8, an angel flying through the midst of heaven declares in a loud voice: “Woe, Woe, Woe, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound” (Revelation 8:13).
 

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I'm kind of Blitz at this time, and so will sign off for today.
 

John146

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When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
Seems to me that it’s the angels that hurt the earth not climate change.


2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
 

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There are many groups in the woke movement throughout the world today who are recognizing injustices. You first describe one faction here in the U.S. representing the whole of the Woke movement, and claim them racist, hateful, who attack those who are like minded. You then move to the global Woke movement on the environment claiming the whole environment movement is built on fear and lies. While I will agree that those who recognize the earth's destruction being destroyed by fossil fuels are to some degree afraid for themselves and their families by those in government and industry who are destroying the world (Revelation 11:18); the majority consensus among scientists worldwide is that global warming is causing ever greater levels of damage to our environment. God will take care of this, however, after the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrists 1,260 world order comes to a close. God will then punish those on high for the destruction they have caused on the earth (Isaiah 24:20-21).

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Isaiah 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
the global movement is not one of God it is one of the men and the devil. The majority of the world is deceived and woke is man's version of self-righteousness. The Woke are those who see their moral superiority to be placed on those who do not agree with them.


The woke movement is absent from truth.

Woke Movement :

  1. rule by mob
  2. might makes right
  3. shut down all who disagree
  4. tag those who disagree with you as racist, facist, homophobe, etc...
  5. remove those who disagree from every part of media and speech.
  6. Insight fear and violence and intimidate those who disagree with you.
Nothing there is godly at all.

In the last days :

  1. the love of many will grow cold
  2. wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.[
  3. Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks
  4. they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like.
  5. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.
  6. God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired.
  7. they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies.
The problem is not Global warming it is a Moral Cooling that is the problem. The woke demonic spirit has crept into the church. and has deceived many as Jesus said it would happen because of those who did not hold to SOUND Biblical Teachings. God has turned them over to a reprobate mind.

Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning,(woke) and they disobey their parents(woke). They refuse to understand,(woke) break their promises(woke), are heartless,(woke) and have no mercy(woke). They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway.(woke)

Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. This is describing those who are WOKE!
 

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you want to stop the destruction of the country? God said this is how you do it.


Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.


The church needs to repent and return to the word of God. Give an account for standing by while 61 million babies were murdered on the alter of Baleck hold to the error of Balim. Judgment starts at the house of God. it will be futile for anyone to think they will be able to stop what God will do to this nation as HE has done to many Great nations. We are playing games with a Holy God and HE is not to be played with. We have perverted HIS love and taught God compromises HIS Holiness. The devil is a liar. We have no reverence for God or HIS word, we think we can con God to accept homosexuality, drunkenness dope smoking ( because I got medical issues) pop pills

have children out of wedlock and not even teach them about God and they grew up - evil wicked little bastards! Left to the streets to wreak havoc on the elderly and poor. Then blame the evil deeds on what happened 150 years ago that they did not even read about it because they can't even read! God help the US!

WE have sown to the wind now reap the whirlwind. Enjoy it we have earned every bit of it.
 

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Lucy, the world's governments promote what the people want to hear, and then do the opposite. The world's governments since the Kyoto protocol in 1998, have all been saying that they will do this and that in order to mitigate climate warming from fossil fuel use. The only result has been an annual increase in fossil fuel burning by industry. Maybe with the exception of last year due to Covid 19, that shuttered industries temporarily, and caused a temporary clearing of the skies in many cities and industrial areas throughout the world.
Nobody loves this good earth more than I

This week a cargo ship carrying 25 tonnes of nitric acid and other chemicals is sinking off Sri Lanka's west coast.
The boat has been on fire since the 20th of May.
You cannot save the environment. Understand that. Not if you stop all oil consumption. Drive the population to poverty.
Destroy manufacturing. Put the entire Western world out of work. Change demographics. Ban plastic and starve everyone to death.


Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
look at the earth beneath;
the heavens will vanish like smoke,
the earth will wear out like a garment
and its inhabitants die like flies.
But my salvation will last for ever,
my righteousness will never fail.


Isaiah 51:6
 
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When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
After the Lords servants are sealed with Gods truth in their foreheads, the seventh seal is then opened, and there is silence in heaven for the space of about ½ hour (Revelation 8:1), after which seven angels then appear who stand before God and are given seven trumpets (Revelation 8:2).

As the Lords angels provide mankind with true illumination as to what will result in the endeavors mankind contemplates to undertake; when the first angel sounds providing mankind with illumination that his undertakings will result in dire environmental consequences, the world’s ruling parties disregard the angels warning, resulting in 1/3 of earth’s trees and all green grass being burned (Revelation 8:7).

Today due to the world’s leaders and titans of industry disregard of global heating caused by increased burning of fossil fuels, the earth as a result is experiencing increasing forest fires throughout many regions.

As the second angel’s sounding warning is also disregarded by the powers that be; a great mountain burning as with fire is then cast into the sea causing 1/3 of earth’s seas to become blood (Revelation 8:8-9).

Today due to agricultural runoff in conjunction with global heating, algae blooms, often referred to as red tides, are becoming more frequent occurrences throughout the worlds oceans, and are causing the death of increasing levels of marine life.

When the third angels sounding illumination of truth is disregarded, a great star burning as a lamp falls upon 1/3 of earth’s rivers and underground aquifers causing them to become bitter and poisonous (Revelation 8:10-11).

Today due to hydraulic fracturing (often referred to as fracking), ever increasing fresh water resources are being made bitter and poisonous.

The star, called wormwood who falls from heaven burning as a lamp is realized as one of Satan’s angels who provides mankind the illumination for the chemical cocktail to access natural gas from shale beneath earth’s surface.

At the fourth angels disregarded sounding warning, 1/3 of the light from the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and do not shine for 1/3 of the day and night (Revelation 8:12).

Today due to industrial pollution, along with automobile and other atmospheric pollutants, the light from our sun, moon, and stars are considerably less visible than prior to when the industrial revolution began.

All of these plagues are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times.

Once our planet reaches the levels of contamination indicated in Revelation 8, an angel flying through the midst of heaven declares in a loud voice: “Woe, Woe, Woe, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound” (Revelation 8:13).

Coffee or tea? Preference?
 
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Yes, truth can be, and is arbitrary to those who hate the light. Calling light darkness, and darkness light. Those who for a thing of naught do injustice to their neighbor; their truth is lucre. These are they in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13 who choose a lie over the truth.
Environmental fascism is truth and light. Got it. You should take your gospel to China.
 

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Those whose knowledge increases during the end times is in regards to truth, and not about some unenlightened individuals who believe in carnal perspectives in the world. Something like a gay pride march or agenda I do not recognize as an increase in knowledge in truth, and therefore is not a true awakening/woke movement, even if some claim it to be.
It echoes the effect of the forbidden fruit “ the woke eyes have opened “ to what God has told man not to be a part of and they also support , rejoice and celebrate and advocate for those who do those things it’s the world for sure

The state of our world and why humanism is the doctrine of a serpent

“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;

men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness;

full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:21-32‬ ‭

That is the question to believe or not to believe Gods word ?

and when you do is it worthy for you to keep ? Or will we alter it to fit our own desires ?

we have the gospel now to believe and be saved but the world has many ways , many theologies , many paths of righteousness it lets out in thought and idea but the gospel is the one that offers salvation
eventually because we’re free creations if we continue choosing the serpents words and following those into sin over Gods into righteousness we’re going to be lost in the clever lie in the world

We’re in this world and situation

“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-4, 6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the devil works hard in the world to hide the truth he’s created hundreds of truths people follow sadly there’s only one sun in the universe , and all of the other light the moon , the stars are only illusion they posses no light but appear so , they reflecting the only light source of the world the Son
 
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When the four angels in Revelation 7 cease their restraining of the elements from damaging the earth, the destruction to one third of all of earth's environmental resources caused by excessive fossil fuel use then commences.
After the Lords servants are sealed with Gods truth in their foreheads, the seventh seal is then opened, and there is silence in heaven for the space of about ½ hour (Revelation 8:1), after which seven angels then appear who stand before God and are given seven trumpets (Revelation 8:2).

As the Lords angels provide mankind with true illumination as to what will result in the endeavors mankind contemplates to undertake; when the first angel sounds providing mankind with illumination that his undertakings will result in dire environmental consequences, the world’s ruling parties disregard the angels warning, resulting in 1/3 of earth’s trees and all green grass being burned (Revelation 8:7).

Today due to the world’s leaders and titans of industry disregard of global heating caused by increased burning of fossil fuels, the earth as a result is experiencing increasing forest fires throughout many regions.

As the second angel’s sounding warning is also disregarded by the powers that be; a great mountain burning as with fire is then cast into the sea causing 1/3 of earth’s seas to become blood (Revelation 8:8-9).

Today due to agricultural runoff in conjunction with global heating, algae blooms, often referred to as red tides, are becoming more frequent occurrences throughout the worlds oceans, and are causing the death of increasing levels of marine life.

When the third angels sounding illumination of truth is disregarded, a great star burning as a lamp falls upon 1/3 of earth’s rivers and underground aquifers causing them to become bitter and poisonous (Revelation 8:10-11).

Today due to hydraulic fracturing (often referred to as fracking), ever increasing fresh water resources are being made bitter and poisonous.

The star, called wormwood who falls from heaven burning as a lamp is realized as one of Satan’s angels who provides mankind the illumination for the chemical cocktail to access natural gas from shale beneath earth’s surface.

At the fourth angels disregarded sounding warning, 1/3 of the light from the sun, moon, and stars is darkened, and do not shine for 1/3 of the day and night (Revelation 8:12).

Today due to industrial pollution, along with automobile and other atmospheric pollutants, the light from our sun, moon, and stars are considerably less visible than prior to when the industrial revolution began.

All of these plagues are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times.

Once our planet reaches the levels of contamination indicated in Revelation 8, an angel flying through the midst of heaven declares in a loud voice: “Woe, Woe, Woe, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound” (Revelation 8:13).
This is a trolling algorithm. A troll bot. I'd delete this entire thread.
 

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Seems to me that it’s the angels that hurt the earth not climate change.


2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

In Revelation 7:1 we see the four angels of God holding back the winds, to not blow (excessively) on the earth, nor the sea. The four angels are holding back the four winds as commanded until their fellow brethren servants of God are sealed with Gods seal of truth.
You are, however, in a way correct. The Lord could have kept His four angels to continue refraining the winds from blowing excessively and damaging the earth and seas, but instead, the Lord decided enough was enough, and that once His servants on earth were sealed with His truth, the restraining of extreme wind on earth and sea, due to mankind's love for the things his hands produce through fossil fuel burning industries, would then no longer be restrained.
 

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Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

In Revelation 7:1 we see the four angels of God holding back the winds, to not blow (excessively) on the earth, nor the sea. The four angels are holding back the four winds as commanded until their fellow brethren servants of God are sealed with Gods seal of truth.
You are, however, in a way correct. The Lord could have kept His four angels to continue refraining the winds from blowing excessively and damaging the earth and seas, but instead, the Lord decided enough was enough, and that once His servants on earth were sealed with His truth, the restraining of extreme wind on earth and sea, due to mankind's love for the things his hands produce through fossil fuel burning industries, would then no longer be restrained.
You added a word that is not in the text; that's called eisegesis and is a great way to lead yourself into delusion.

Also, the text does not even hint that the issue is the burning of fossil fuels. That is your (mis)interpretation, and is not valid. Volcanic eruptions pump significant amounts of greenhouse gases as well, but they are not caused by humans. It appears that you have embraced the Al Gore (per)version of science and now you're trying to force-fit your worldview into Scripture.
 

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You added a word that is not in the text; that's called eisegesis and is a great way to lead yourself into delusion.

Also, the text does not even hint that the issue is the burning of fossil fuels. That is your (mis)interpretation, and is not valid. Volcanic eruptions pump significant amounts of greenhouse gases as well, but they are not caused by humans. It appears that you have embraced the Al Gore (per)version of science and now you're trying to force-fit your worldview into Scripture.
The Lord attributes in Revelation 9:20, the plagues in Revelation 8 & 9 to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times. The vast majority of things made today are made in fossil fuel burning industries. In addition to the destruction of the earth in Revelation 8 from excessive fossil fuel burning, Revelation 9:21 indicate the unjust immoral acts resulting from mankind's love for material goods, a.k.a., materialism that is idolatry.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
 

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The Lord attributes in Revelation 9:20, the plagues in Revelation 8 & 9 to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce in these end times. The vast majority of things made today are made in fossil fuel burning industries. In addition to the destruction of the earth in Revelation 8 from excessive fossil fuel burning, Revelation 9:21 indicate the unjust immoral acts resulting from mankind's love for material goods, a.k.a., materialism that is idolatry.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
You're not getting it.

You are ADDING ideas to the text that simply aren't there. Rev. 9:20 does NOT talk about "the love mankind has for the things his hands produce"; it talks about repenting of the works of their hands, then it talks directly about idols, not everyday manufactured goods.

The earth is NOT being destroyed by the burning of fossil fuels; that's a pseudoscientific lie you have apparently swallowed whole.