The new Woke movement

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The earth and its elements melting with fervent heat in 2 Peter 3:10 correlates with when Satan is freed from his prison at the end of the millennium, at which point he musters up the faithless throughout the world to contend with the faithful in New Jerusalem, at which point the Lord rains fire from the heavens down on them. This is off topic about the current awakening among the masses throughout the world about the injustices being perpetuated by the transgressors of the world.
I guess you are not part of the awakened masses. Reread Rev. 20.
2Pet 3:10 doesn`t happen until after the White Throne Judgment.
 

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The politicians and the industrialists are all very well aware of the truth. They simply reject the truth as 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13 explains they prefer to accept and believe in a lie so that they may take pleasure in unrighteousness, that is the world today.
The poor and downtrodden are not taking much pleasure in the unrighteous injustices of the world today, but are experiencing more unjust acts upon themselves, and thus are becoming more aware/woke to the truth about this world, and are increasing in true knowledge.
Sounds like you have been brainwashed in Social Marxism. Have you ever been born again? Can you describe what it is to be born again?
 

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People around the world are waking up to the truth, with their knowledge increasing, and are therefore less gullible to the lies the world's governments have been feeding them.
Lies like “Abortion is a woman’s right”, “There are more than two genders”, and, “Your feelings are more important than the truth”?
 

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The politicians and the industrialists are all very well aware of the truth. They simply reject the truth as 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13 explains they prefer to accept and believe in a lie so that they may take pleasure in unrighteousness, that is the world today.
The poor and downtrodden are not taking much pleasure in the unrighteous injustices of the world today, but are experiencing more unjust acts upon themselves, and thus are becoming more aware/woke to the truth about this world, and are increasing in true knowledge.
You are joking right? This is a Christian Forum.
 

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Sounds like you have been brainwashed in Social Marxism. Have you ever been born again? Can you describe what it is to be born again?
Being born again is off topic. Those being sealed with Gods seal of truth in Revelation 7, immediately precedes the destruction to one third of earth's environmental resources in Revelation 8, which the Lord attributes in Revelation 9:20, to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce. Notice how in Revelation 7:1-3, four angels are currently restraining the damage due the earth to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce, until all who accept the truth are sealed with Gods seal.

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
 

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Lies like “Abortion is a woman’s right”, “There are more than two genders”, and, “Your feelings are more important than the truth”?
While I can agree with you to some degree on what you state; this still is somewhat off topic, as to the true knowledge that will increase as people wake from the current increasing darkness, which is due to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce, and that is causing all manner of increasing transgressions, including those you list.
 

luigi

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Nope, you are the one that keeps using the terms 'awakened' and 'masses'. I just think this topic of yours is off topic for a Bible Discussion Forum.
My explanation for increasing knowledge in Daniel 12:4 during the end times I feel correlates with people around the world today waking to the truth about many of the lies they have been living under through their governments and those on high. If you think otherwise, then provide an explanation why you believe so.
 

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My explanation for increasing knowledge in Daniel 12:4 during the end times I feel correlates with people around the world today waking to the truth about many of the lies they have been living under through their governments and those on high. If you think otherwise, then provide an explanation why you believe so.
I believe Daniel is discussing the end times as far as Israel is concerned, the last days referring to the time of Jacob’s Trouble. The church will no longer be on earth.
 

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what you are talking about is mass deception. Where do you live I mean what country?
I live here in the U.S., and my accepting knowledge about how our environment is being destroyed from fossil fuel use is truth, and not deception. Who do you think those are in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 who reject the truth, so that they may enjoy the pleasures of this world, who choose the lie and believe in delusions?
Who do you think those are in Revelation 7 who are being sealed with Gods seal of truth, just prior to when the plagues in Revelation 8 destroys one third of all of earth's environmental resources, which is attributed in Revelation 9:20 to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce?
I'm awake to the truth, as are many more daily of my brethren in Revelation 7.[/QUOTE]




it is deception. Those ow the woke movement are racist, hateful and attack those who are not like-minded. The windmill in California where I am kills more birds and causes more environmental fires than Fossil fuel ever did. The whole enviromental movement is built on fear and lies. And those with deep pockets are triggering those who are ignorant, unlearned and teaching them to hate their country based on the sins of other people's past. it a deceptive scheme.
 

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In my opening post, I had a small excerpt from Fox news which partially explained how the Black live matter movement was assimilated to become part of the Woke movement, which throughout the world is mostly about the injustices being carried out by the world's governments throughout the world. Don't lump one injustice in one country into being the whole of injustices throughout the world.
To be awake to truth is of God. To close your eyes to truth, is darkness, and darkness is of the devil.
Foxs news is a lying devil too.
 

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They who are of the world, accept the carnal sins of the world. There is no true knowledge increase among those individuals, and therefore they are not the people of whom the Lord refers to as increasing in knowledge during the worst of times, near the end.
If you read through some of my earlier posts on this thread, you will see the correlations I pieced together about the Antichrist in Daniel 8 & 11 in which the transgressors throughout the world are running rampant, being when knowledge among the true increases.
But knowledge of the truth is the knowledge that our world is run by the Lord. That is the truth, and worldly people think they are the ones who are completely responsible for the world, when they are so stupid they think the world of the flesh is all there is.

In fact, many people who say they are Christians feel the fleshly world is more important than the spiritual world, and it isn't. The world of the Lord, the spiritual world, is eternal. The flesh dies.
 

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jj
Joking about what? You have to be a little more explicit.
Your ignorance of Biblical matters astounds me. Grabbing a verse here and there to promote your political ideology just wont wash.
 

Dino246

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While I can agree with you to some degree on what you state; this still is somewhat off topic, as to the true knowledge that will increase as people wake from the current increasing darkness, which is due to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce, and that is causing all manner of increasing transgressions, including those you list.
Which is why your use of the term, "woke" is completely wrong. The jargon-slang use of "woke" does not refer to an awareness of the truth about the state of things, but rather, alignment or, more commonly, actual agreement with the left's ideology on these and other subjects.
 
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My explanation for increasing knowledge in Daniel 12:4 during the end times I feel correlates with people around the world today waking to the truth about many of the lies they have been living under through their governments and those on high. If you think otherwise, then provide an explanation why you believe so.
Woke is a lie. So perhaps leave out that word. People are awakening to truth about lies. Can you give me three specific lies you believe people are awaking to?

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Can you name 2 injustices, specifically, you think the world is awakening to? Thank you.

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Lucy-Pevensie

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There is a growing awareness throughout the world that the world's rulers do not have the people's and the earth's environmental best interests in mind or heart. It's all over the news, every single day, where the environment is collapsing here in such a way, and collapsing in another area in such a way, and etc. etc. etc. The world's governments ever since the Kyoto protocol in 1998, have all been promising to do something about limiting our destruction of the planet from fossil fuels, only to every year increase in burning more fossil fuels. The public throughout the world is therefore becoming more aware daily that their leaders true intent is to maintain the status quo of fossil fuel use.
Look at the plagues in Revelation 8 & 9, which the Lord in Revelation 9:20 attributes to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce. The things we all love are mostly produced in fossil fuel burning factories.
So today, more and more people being made aware that the increasing problems in our environment are caused by fossil fuels, correlates with those whose knowledge to the truth during these end times increases. These individuals whose knowledge of the truth is increasing are also those who in Revelation 7 and now being sealed with Gods seal of truth, just prior to the commencing plagues in Revelation 8.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
You should not be accepting what is "all over the news everyday" and adopting the deceptions you are hearing there.
Climate alarmism is deception. Governments don't oppose it. They promote it. They don't oppose "Woke" agenda they promote it.
They have you right where they want you. Believing a load of nefarious propaganda.


If you are truly concerned for the welfare of the planet, seek the wisdom of the one who created the planet.
Drop the false narratives of mainstream media & extremist political movements. You can't spin those agendas as righteous.
 

luigi

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I believe Daniel is discussing the end times as far as Israel is concerned, the last days referring to the time of Jacob’s Trouble. The church will no longer be on earth.
Hi John146, I understand your position, believing in a pre trib rapture. I, however, am of the position that there is no pre trib rapture, and that the saints will be around when the little horn/the Antichrist in alliance with the ten horned beast, wears out the saints (Daniel 7:25), and overcomes them (Revelation 13:7), through the great words he speaks, in support of the beasts new world order. I therefore also see the saints being those who accept the truth and are sealed with Gods seal of truth, while the rest of the world who are not written in the lambs book of life will worship the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrist (Revelation 13:4 & 8), and thus accept the lies the man of sin (a.k.a., the Antichrist) will speak, so that they may continue to enjoy the unrighteousness that is in the world (2 Thessalonians 2:9-13).
 

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"The word woke became entwined with the Black Lives Matter movement; instead of just being a word that signaled awareness of injustice or racial tension, it became a word of action..." Fox News.

People throughout the world are becoming increasingly aware of the inequities and injustices surrounding their lives. In Daniel 12, the Lord informs us that when the worst of times come upon the earth, knowledge shall be increased (Daniel 12:4). It seems to me that the "Woke" movement represents this increasing knowledge and understanding about the inequities and injustices in todays world.

These are the days in which transgressors reach their climax (Daniel 8:12-13; 23), through the Antichrist, a.k.a., the little horn who magnifies himself above everything, including God (Daniel 8:11; 11:36).

We may not be at the worst of times yet as indicated in Daniel 12:1, but with all the news about the increasing destruction of our environmental resources, it looks like the earth is not to far from the dire circumstances described in the Olivet discourse, when the abomination of desolation (a.k.a., the Antichrist) makes his appearance.
I must have a different thought about what “woke “ means

to me I seem to gather that it is the source of all Of the twisted ideology arising

a woke person in my thought just how I take it needs to be enlightened and become aware of other folks like say forminstance “ a transsexual “ woke means we need to accept that as an acceptable lifestyle that there’s nothing wrong with

they feel as if the world is not suitable for groups like transsexuals. Or another example I take is to be woke we need to support gay marriage and celebrate that it’s oerfectly Normal and nothing is wrong with that the world needs to become equitable to them and stop “ oppressing them “ with our biblical ideas “ of right and wrong

I think the racial component is only one of Many arms of this world movement of universal acceptance of everything from trans gender surgery being morally good and valuable , to gay marriage , to any other form of morality God set in place

I am no authority on woke Ism so I’m not claiming to be right or that my way is the only way to see it but I see the woke movement as an assault on Christian values established in the word of God as perfectly equitable if they are kept and adhered to

the Bible supports referring to racism , that all are judged by the content of character and not outward apoearance or gender much like mlks wonderful I have a dream speech

race is like a wrapper the peanut butter cup is the same in a colorful wrapper or black and white. Perception of race is a childs perception in a biblical sense but perception of a persons character revealed in thoer deeds is maturity