What 3 verses say that a lost man cannot believe the gospel?

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Nope

God can help those who are perishing to understand, and through that chose. He helped me when I was perishing, And by drawing me to him and the HS convicting me of sin righteousness and judgment, brought me to the point I could chose to recieve him as the tax collector. Or to reject him like the pagan or pharisee

it in no way PROVES regeneration precedes justification, only by your interpretation, which is what the op was asking for,

It’s called hardening (strengthening) ones heart,

you strengthen ones heart by putting truth in front of them, the more they reject, the more they are hardened.

he did the same to pharaoh.

he did not prevent them from seeing the truth, he strengthened their unbelief by putting truth in their face.

for that reason, they will have no excuse

He did it so that he could hold it against them on judgment day,

he did not prevent them from believing by closing their ears.

you should have a major problem even thinking that God is that way

I like that!

this, yes

we need to take care, because Matthew 13:15 . . is true.

me not fully comprehending God's ways, i don't have a problem with.
i do have a problem with contradicting this:

yep

it still does no mean God was a respector of persons and refused to allow them any possibility to believe

it says that’s why he spoke in parables. He did it so only people of true faith can see and hear. Just like John 6,


you should have a problem with God calling me self a fully merciful loving god, yet telling us to love even those who hate us and yet refusing to do that himself

1¶And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6¶Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect( MATURE ) : yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9¶But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13¶Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
So the wisdom Paul speaks among the mature is the death burial and resurrection? isn't this the milk ?

the blinding of Israel is fact, and it's not because God hates them.

thanks; i got occupied before i could edit my post earlier to give the rest of this passage.

he didn't preach with persuasive arguments and wisdom; He preached with the power of God.
however to those who do believe and grow in the testimony, he preached wisdom and persuaded with careful arguments from scripture. those who drank milk, were fed meat. the lactose intolerant, not so much.
because the natural man cannot receive these things - but when by the power of God the testimony is heard by those who are of God, they are supernaturally perfected, and can comprehend the mystery that is revealed in the person and work of Christ. the gospel is: the person and work of Christ.
he did not speak with persuasive argument and wisdom when he declared the testimony of God, in order that our faith would be in the power of God, not in the ability of the preacher to cause us to understand. it is not by careful explanation that one hears and understands; else our faith would be in the persuasion of the preacher. it is by the power of God that one hears and understands - and so it is He has chosen, 'the foolishness of preaching' -- and so it is He spoke in parables declaring the gospel, so that those "who have" will be given more, and those "who do not have" but who hear exactly the same thing being said, even what they have is "taken away"

this is not a description of salvation resting on the persuasion of preaching.
this is a description of preaching being the chosen instrument through which the power of God works.
it is a supernatural process -- not a natural one. the power of God, not the strength, ability or will of men.

I think the hosts of Heaven cringe every time someone accepts the tenets of predetermined salvation. Aka, that dark Hell spawn flower known as tulip and its many petals, denominations.

There aren't any verses that state a lost person cannot believe the gospel.

If there were, none of us would be having this conversation would we? Because we'd all be in the world damned in our sins.
And what a waste it would be, Jesus' sacrifice on the cross after delivering his ministry and the task for which he was born. To take the sins of the world upon himself on the cross. That whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. (eternal Salvation)

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He didn't reach out and save any of us.
We reached out and accepted the free gift of grace that God sent to save the world and whosoever believes.

oh, i didn't realize it was the sheep that go find the lost Shepherd & bring Him home.
guess i had it backwards

thanks

You do have it backwards, snark remark included.
You were lost the moment you bowed to tulip's teachings in any form. Tulip makes a mockery of God and is anti-Christ.

So one doesn’t need the Spirit to understand the OT?

Absurd to think that John the Baptist was preaching to repent/change of mind to people who had already repented.

You make the word of God and Paul both liars

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31).

He should have stated, "Pray for your regeneration so you can believe."

wait, that's a double..

ok so it is the Shepherd who goes out and finds the sheep?
it wasn't Peter pulling himself out of the water by grabbing Jesus hand, it was Jesus reaching out and saving him?
it was Christ coming to us from heaven, not us building a tower to reach Him?

or it's not?

So far its clear there are no verses that say that " a lost man cannot believe the gospel?
but what we can see is the ' proof texts 'used out of context that folks believe say this .
Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. ... Exegesis is drawing out text's meaning in accordance with the author's context and discoverable meaning.