What 3 verses say that a lost man cannot believe the gospel?
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If a man could cause another to believe the truth of the work of Christ then salvation through faith by hearing would be the work of clever human oratory and persuasion rather than "the power of God"
People like Finney believed in the power of the tongue in this regard, rather than the actual work of the Spirit of God through the proclaimed word. I do not agree with Finney; i believe that it is God who calls and who opens the ear and heart, and thus persuades
People like Finney believed in the power of the tongue in this regard, rather than the actual work of the Spirit of God through the proclaimed word. I do not agree with Finney; i believe that it is God who calls and who opens the ear and heart, and thus persuades
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yes grace a responsibility to do the will that works from within. (Not of us) Not a right we are born with. But again a responsibility we have to guard it with all of new heart soul and mind. Staying in His will as much as possible depending on us and the God .two walking in agreement. We walk with Him who empowers us . . remembering if we say we do not sin .We make him out to be the liar. making the work of his faith working in us without effect.
It is a result of the fall (corruption) dying .
But it is used in parables to reveal spiritual blindness the result of the fall. Eyes opened by the word of the parable .the word of God .ears to hear what the Spirit is saying
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Using the temporal things seen to give us the unseen spiritual gospel understanding hid in parables.
A good example is with John the Baptist just prior to sufferings as a be headed, martyr . Christ his head . Having some doubt and wondering. Moved by God John sent messengers in a hope or strengthening his faith. The report of the gospel came back ..Again using the temporal things seen in order to reveal the unseen gospel in that parable. John believed God , mixing faith the unseen will and entered the rest of the gospel .The true fast.
Note. . .Gospel metaphors in the parable below ( green)
Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
The proper prescription must be applied in order to rightly divide the parables.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
It is a result of the fall (corruption) dying .
But it is used in parables to reveal spiritual blindness the result of the fall. Eyes opened by the word of the parable .the word of God .ears to hear what the Spirit is saying
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Using the temporal things seen to give us the unseen spiritual gospel understanding hid in parables.
A good example is with John the Baptist just prior to sufferings as a be headed, martyr . Christ his head . Having some doubt and wondering. Moved by God John sent messengers in a hope or strengthening his faith. The report of the gospel came back ..Again using the temporal things seen in order to reveal the unseen gospel in that parable. John believed God , mixing faith the unseen will and entered the rest of the gospel .The true fast.
Note. . .Gospel metaphors in the parable below ( green)
Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.
The proper prescription must be applied in order to rightly divide the parables.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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John 6:42-45
King James Version
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
King James Version
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
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Context does not support this as being lost man cannot believe the Gospel as a universal application for all men throughout all time.
The Israelite in attendance listening to Jesus are not taking in the message of Jesus while He is on planet Earth, they have been sealed over to their already rebellious condition during that time as God is accomplishing His plan of redemption.
Context does not support this as being lost man cannot believe the Gospel as a universal application for all men throughout all time.
The Israelite in attendance listening to Jesus are not taking in the message of Jesus while He is on planet Earth, they have been sealed over to their already rebellious condition during that time as God is accomplishing His plan of redemption.
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The scripture I quoted was In response to post human’s post showing that man can’t use words to cause faith It comes from GOD.
Faith comes by hearing and GOD was In CHRIST although some saw HIM as a human born physically of man and women and wondering why does HE say HE IS from heaven.
Faith comes by hearing and GOD was In CHRIST although some saw HIM as a human born physically of man and women and wondering why does HE say HE IS from heaven.
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Sorry, I cannot find a single verse that explicitly says that a lost man cannot believe the gospel. If you didn't have that word "believe" in what you are looking for maybe I could find such a verse. But you ask for a verse that says, and not implies, that a lost man cannot believe the gospel. There is no such verse. (or if there is, someone please post it!)
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Isaiah 28:11-13
King James Version
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
King James Version
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
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You are forgetting that I mentioned the Holy Spirit in connection with the Gospel. You are also forgetting that Paul said that even if men preached the Gospel in pretense, it was still being preached.
PHILIPPIANS 1: THE GOSPEL IS THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
PHILIPPIANS 1: THE GOSPEL IS THE POWER OF GOD UNTO SALVATION
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
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